Steve1871 Posted 21 January , 2019 Share Posted 21 January , 2019 Guess the Bayonet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 21 January , 2019 Share Posted 21 January , 2019 I have it ! well 1895 or 1888.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 21 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 January , 2019 Well Gernika, which would it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 21 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 January , 2019 Gernika was right, this post was only up 10 minutes,he is good ! I was hoping the German acceptance and issue markings would throw some of you off. A standard M95 Austrain/ Hungarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 21 January , 2019 Share Posted 21 January , 2019 Very rare bayonet. Very well Steve!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 21 January , 2019 Share Posted 21 January , 2019 (edited) Rivets and the vebel at the end of the grip turn me light on. My two bayonets spoke bulgarian long time ago. Edited 21 January , 2019 by Gernika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 21 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 21 January , 2019 Hey Gernika , I do not even know what a Bulgarian proof/acceptance mark looks like.sounds like part of a good collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 21 January , 2019 Share Posted 21 January , 2019 Just now, Steve1871 said: Hey Gernika , I do not even know what a Bulgarian proof/acceptance mark looks like.sounds like part of a good collection 1 minute ago, Steve1871 said: Hey Gernika , I do not even know what a Bulgarian proof/acceptance mark looks like.sounds like part of a good collection I purchased both at once from a seller in Bulgaria, where he found the bayonets its only known by God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 22 January , 2019 Share Posted 22 January , 2019 22 hours ago, Steve1871 said: Guess the Bayonet! Steve, I overlooked this post... Is this an Ernst Busch/Solingen one re-purposed for Bulgaria? I have one W/17, same inspector marks on blade spine, in original condition but somewhat pitted on the pommel - cost me an arm and a leg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 22 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 22 January , 2019 Hey Julian, my friend Paul simply sent me the 2 pic's, saying he thought German issue in Grwat War. With all that stamping on spine, why do you think Bulgaria? You know a lot more on bayonets than I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 22 January , 2019 Share Posted 22 January , 2019 1 hour ago, Steve1871 said: Hey Julian, my friend Paul simply sent me the 2 pic's, saying he thought German issue in Grwat War. With all that stamping on spine, why do you think Bulgaria? You know a lot more on bayonets than I do As Gernika said earlier, those large rivets and the electo-penciled serial number are a give away for Bulgarian-used/modified bayonets. Original unaltered ones have the same small rivets as the M.1895. So it is basically a M.1895, but German-made by Busch! It is not so well known is that Ernst Busch / Solingen made these in, I think in 1917 only, to fit A-H rifles in German use. Have a look at http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/HTNL%20DOCUMNETS/Austrian%201895.htm As Old Smithy says, "Unaltered German ones are scarce." so I am mighty happy with my example! See: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/231287-a-german-made-m95-bayonet/?tab=comments#comment-2302585 Best, Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 22 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 22 January , 2019 We're these German issue during the war, and re- issue to Bulgaria post war? Is that how it went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 22 January , 2019 Share Posted 22 January , 2019 Yes, German made in WW1 and originally German WW1 issue - but I don't have the full story to hand. Bulgaria acquired an awful lot of Mannlicher-type bayonets post WW1, and often replaced the crossguards, and so the big rivets, the electro=penciling being from post WW2 when they got loads more before adopting the AK 45. This systematic Bulgarian alteration of captured and acquired 'foreign' Mannlicher-type bayonets is why unaltered vesions of the Busch German Mannilcher version are so hard to find, and also unaltered versions of the Greek Mannlicher Y 1903... Well, for the latter, not here, I have several of the unaltered Greek Y.1903's, including an extremely rare Naval version, left behind after the Turkish War of Independence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 22 January , 2019 Share Posted 22 January , 2019 3 hours ago, trajan said: As Gernika said earlier, those large rivets and the electo-penciled serial number are a give away for Bulgarian-used/modified bayonets. Original unaltered ones have the same small rivets as the M.1895. So it is basically a M.1895, but German-made by Busch! It is not so well known is that Ernst Busch / Solingen made these in, I think in 1917 only, to fit A-H rifles in German use. Have a look at http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/HTNL%20DOCUMNETS/Austrian%201895.htm As Old Smithy says, "Unaltered German ones are scarce." so I am mighty happy with my example! See: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/231287-a-german-made-m95-bayonet/?tab=comments#comment-2302585 Best, Julian Link does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 23 January , 2019 Share Posted 23 January , 2019 13 hours ago, Gernika said: Link does not work. Just try googling "old smithy bayonet Austrian 1895" - that should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 23 January , 2019 Share Posted 23 January , 2019 Here is my pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 23 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2019 Very nice bayonets you got there Gernika.A pair to be proud of! Are those Bulgarian frog's? Most 98 and 95 frog's seem to be same size and get confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 23 January , 2019 Share Posted 23 January , 2019 29 minutes ago, Steve1871 said: Very nice bayonets you got there Gernika.A pair to be proud of! Are those Bulgarian frog's? Most 98 and 95 frog's seem to be same size and get confusing I believe they are. Frogs and bayonets came as you can see from Bulgaria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernika Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 There is one 95 selling now in an ubicuos auction web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 26 October , 2019 Share Posted 26 October , 2019 Is well known that majority of these bayonets ended in Bulgaria and were later refurbished for standart M95/34 by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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