corisande Posted 7 January , 2019 Share Posted 7 January , 2019 I was contacted by someone in Ireland who owns a Triumph Trusty motorcycle that dates back to the war of independence in Ireland it has a number on it 29114 would that be the bike number or the owner of the bike Its verbal history implies that it was acquired as a result of an ambush, but I cannot relate it to any serviceman in Ireland at that time. And I am aware that the longer numbers were in use by then If the numbers were unique to the bike , how can I get any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmeg Posted 7 January , 2019 Share Posted 7 January , 2019 53 minutes ago, corisande said: I was contacted by someone in Ireland who owns a Triumph Trusty motorcycle that dates back to the war of independence in Ireland it has a number on it 29114 would that be the bike number or the owner of the bike Its verbal history implies that it was acquired as a result of an ambush, but I cannot relate it to any serviceman in Ireland at that time. And I am aware that the longer numbers were in use by then If the numbers were unique to the bike , how can I get any further could it be a date of manufacture? I have some photos of motorbikes taken in 1916- the number plates are two letters followed by four numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddell Posted 7 January , 2019 Share Posted 7 January , 2019 Corisande, This may help. The frame and engine both have serial numbers to date them. You would need to confirm where he has taken the number from. There is a reference chart here- https://www.veterantriumph.co.uk/dating-3-w.asp If 29114 is the engine number it looks like it was a 1913 model. If 29114 is the frame number then possibly 1919. Later Triumphs had matching engine and frame numbers. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 7 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 January , 2019 Thank you both for the information i have asked the chap who contacted me to send me some photos the bike apparently had come into the possession of a high profile IRA man during the war of Independene, and there are a number of British soldiers who disappeared on motorbikes, and whose bodies were never recovered, which is why I am trying to track down the bike the photos may take a few days to get to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 7 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 January , 2019 Quote the This is what I have been sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 7 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 January , 2019 And there appears to be another number here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddell Posted 7 January , 2019 Share Posted 7 January , 2019 (edited) Corisande, The second image appears to be the frame number. 294784? Which would put it at 1919 based on that link I posted previously. The first image looks like that number has been stamped into a component, but it doesn't look like an engine number. The registered part of that number would comply with a part that has been patented. Engine numbers seem to be stamped on the left side of the crankcase, just below where the cylinder barrel mounts into the crankcase. I have attached an image that shows engine 42571 (taken from the net). Be aware that it is normal to see different engines in frames and vice versa one hundred years on. I don't know how you would link the bike to military service either. There are records available for batches of serial numbers supplied to the WD for WW2 motorcycles, as well as WD census numbers. I don't believe these exist for WW1 motorcycles. It may be worth contacting the proprietor at Veteran Triumph Spares. There is a forum member on here occasionally, 'vintage sunbeam' who wrote an interesting book on early despatch riders. He may be able to assist you more. Scott Edited 7 January , 2019 by Waddell Added more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 8 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2019 Thank you for that valuable extra information i will ill follow up on your suggestions. I had forgotten about the Dispatch Rider book, and that member may well be able to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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