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Scottish monument to be restored


Neill Gilhooley

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Morning,

I have this from a correspondent in France ('Tanker' on forum.pages14-18.com), that may be of interest.

I'm led to believe the monument at Cramoiselle commemorates Scots of 34th Division for 31 July / 1 August 1918, notably the taking of Beugneux Hill, and is to be restored.

https://forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=34217&start=10 

The French forum and GWF could learn a lot from each other with sufficient liaison, though I lack the language. Perhaps there are even some centenary parallels to draw...

Monument de Cramoiselle.jpg

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I've made the Scots ref more general as the original gen on 8th Argylls seems incorrect (5th perhaps)
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Further... I understand the land is up for sale and there is no money for relocation, and also a question as to whether there is a grave beneath.

Photo from Serge Hoyet, from Soissonnais 14-18.

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Neill Gilhooley

And more gen: The Stone is now in Coucy-le-Château for its restoration, Eric Nève (tailleur de pierre) is in charge of this restoration.

 

thumbnail_Cramoiselle - Plaque du monument (01a).jpg

http://soissonnais14-18.net/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=2435&mnu_modecol=W 

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Steven Broomfield

Well even if no-one else says anything, I found that interesting!

 

Thanks for sharing

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Neill Gilhooley

Now then, you are far too busy to be wondering where Cramoiselle is. Can you update your location to exclude the dreaded railway?

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Steven Broomfield

Good thinking.

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Neill Gilhooley

More news...

http://www.soissonnais14-18.net/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=2435&mnu_modecol=W

 

"The owner of the hill, don't want used sand of the hill, before a very long time.

It's good for the monument.

There are really some unknown soldiers, under the tombstone."

 

(Even rereading myself, my last post from 2 Oct seems rather rude - not intended!)

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Does anyone know whether this stone has any special significance?

If i remember rightly it had the number 19 engraved on it.

 

Is it just a milepost?

It is located at the furthest point of the advance by 34th Division on 1st August 1918.

Beugneux Ridge stone..png

Beugneux Ridge stone - 19th.png

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Neill Gilhooley

Some good news from Michel Souquet and Thierry Baux about the memorial at Cramoiselle:  

2068264104_CalvairedeCramoiselle(01).jpg.0d3ed874d84d0f9279e8527dc2673334.jpg 1589442217_CalvairedeCramoiselle(04).jpg.6e8409ac2caee649f62925c4b60bd4f5.jpg

 

The inauguration is on 4th August 2019 if anyone would be able to attend...

[Apologies r.m.willis, I am not at all familiar with the site or events]

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That is one heck of a difference!

Forgot to add, well done to all those involved in the restoration project.

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Neill Gilhooley

I'm pleased to report, that the inauguration looks to have gone very well. Any representative from the UK wish to attend next August?

Cramoiselle.jpg.7c2c537d3b25a1ad1b5d6fff9c62bb12.jpg

https://abonne.lunion.fr/id84981/article/2019-08-06/cramaille-la-croix-de-cramoiselle-lieu-de-sacrifice-de-soldats-en-1918-est

https://forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=34217&start=20

I'm told 'There is, perhaps five unknown soldiers. Any research in this grave was done since WW1, and burial service from Metz have no information on it.'

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