VAD Hospitals - not staff..patient lists...

[Mike Dearing]

Any ideas?

 

I knew my Grandfather was twice wounded - once a blighty  PTE WM Ward 16068 Leics 6th service battalion - he was on the causality list 25 06 1916 DT2608196, I presume it was dated later than the actual injury as it I think it was part of the Bazentin action where many were injured and it didn't feature spe3cifically in the  6th bttn war diary (500 OR killed, wounded or missing) , however we know he was recuperating in Walton on the Naze (there were two OR VADs in Clacton and Frinton as well so I guess Sunholm VAD in Walton on the Naze is the place - are there lists of soldiers who stayed at the VADS as I am trying to figure out when he got back to France..?

 

Thank you Mike  

[alf mcm]

Hello Mike,

 Welcome to the forum.

 I am not aware of lists of patients at VAD Hospitals, but you can sometimes find newspaper reports showing lists of patients being sent to particular hospitals. According to his medal roll, on Ancestry, https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5119/41629_626640_11609-00178?pid=1665214&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D5119%26h%3D1665214%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DebM133%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=ebM133&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true      your grandfather served in the 9th Leicestershire Regiment {and went to France with them} and then served with the 6th Leicestershire Regiment, as a Corporal. His medal record card, also on Ancestry https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1262/30850_A001625-01202?pid=5024014&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DebM136%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1262%26gsfn%3Dwilliam%26gsln%3Dward%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln_x%3D1%26cp%3D11%26gskw%3Dleicestershire%26gskw_x%3D1%26qh%3DWgRG975U7yxEAQOzQK67cw%3D%3D%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26redir%3Dfalse%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D39%26fh%3D11%26h%3D5024014%26recoff%3D9%2011%26ml_rpos%3D12&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=ebM136&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true   shows that he first landed in France in 1916 {because there is no date shown}. It could be that he was wounded whilst serving with the 9th.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[TEW]

I'm aware of only one set of admission/discharge books for a VAD hospital. 2 volumes, one in Devon Heritage Centre and the other in private hands.

 

You could try the Seax site at Essex archives but nothing showing for 'Sunholm'.

 

If the BRC website was working you could check what other VAD hospital there were in the area.

 

Not sure where the 25 06 1916 DT2608196 comes from, I can see him in a huge list of Leicester Regt. wounded in The Times of 25/8/1916.

TEW

[spof]

35 minutes ago, TEW said:

Not sure where the 25 06 1916 DT2608196 comes from

 

I read that as a casualty list in the Daily Telegraph of 26/8/18 and the list is dated 25/6/16.

[Mike Dearing]

very interesting as I thought he was in the 6th then the 9th.. ill check ancestry

 

 

[Mike Dearing]

actually I was right - he was a private in the 6th then (having signed on in august 14, ) the tidworth to front on the last day of july 1915 then wounded in august 16 then prisoner in 1918 (see below) - he was in the 6th D then - when he got back and I think he may have had the card you see completed after that and the 9 was put on the latter victory medal card index as there is a medal card when he was a Pte for the 14-15 Star  I attach his german prisoner record from Epehy..

 

 

Rgds Mike

Edited 15 August , 2018 by Mike Dearing

[Mike Dearing]

ill have to look at the casuality lists in the Times and the Telegraph as the "incident date" I have is 25/08/1916 interesting stuff..

 

 

[Mike Dearing]

what does Trans to Cl.Z.20/3/19 mean?  that's on his 14/15 star

 

[ss002d6252]

Class z reserve- it was basically a list of discharged soldiers who were to be quickly recalled if war broke out again.

 

Craig

[Mike Dearing]

cheers thought it was something like that, though he was in poor health after 6 months of POW food..

 

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[Mike Dearing]

the odd reference to the casuality was found by forces war records so I guess it could be their reference...

 

First Name:

W M

Surname:

Ward

Resided Town:

Kibworth

Incident Date:

25/08/1916

Information:

Listed as "Wounded" on the Casualty List issued by the War Office.

Further Information:

This man was entitled to wear a "Wound Stripe" as authorised under Army Order 204 of the 6th July 1916. The terms of this award being met by their naming in this list.

Rank:

Private

Service Number:

16068

Service:

British Army

Primary Unit:

Leicestershire Regiment

Archive Reference:

DT26081916

[Mike Dearing]

having read through the war diary in detail for this period for the Leicesters 6th battn, it seems likely that my granddad Pte Ward 16068 was one of many wounded at Bazentin and the reporting of his being injured took time to catch up and identify people...  (a month later in the Times ? as an OR undoubtedly not so much emphasis was placed upon numerous non officer wounded? ) though a month seems excessive?  though after Bazentin the Regiment was in Arras regrouping and the diary reported it was "quiet" for most of the month.. and there were no reported wounded for the period..

 

 

Edited 21 August , 2018 by Mike Dearing

[Expat yeoman]

The Walton-on-the-Naze VAD hospital is Singholm (not Sunholm) at Naze Park Road if that helps in the research.