OLD ROBIN HOOD Posted 17 May , 2018 Share Posted 17 May , 2018 Greetings from the Forest of Sherwood . Weather beautiful, a lovely place to be. A new research project . 26367 Private Fred Butler 2/7th ( Robin Hoods ) Notts & Derby Regt. K.I.A. 21st March 1918. Born and lived Ockbrook Derby . son of George and Louisa Butler. I think born 1896 or 1897 Worked in the mines. That is what I have any other information gratefully received Old Robin Hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 17 May , 2018 Share Posted 17 May , 2018 ForcesWarRecords have a Hospital Admissions entry for him dated 4/8/17, Chilled Feet, and show his unit as C Company 16th Service Bn (Chatsworth Rifles). From the 31st Ambulance Train, Bandaghem to Calais. I am sure he wasn't the only one with cold feet at that time. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 17 May , 2018 Share Posted 17 May , 2018 Ancestry has a few pages of Freds service record, enlisted 26/5/1915. Not very much I'm afraid. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD ROBIN HOOD Posted 18 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2018 Hi Charlie & Bob As usual a very big THANK YOU for the information. I didn't have a lot on Fred Butler , now I have much more. I really am grateful . Also all who have viewed my post now know who he was. Old Robin Hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 18 May , 2018 Share Posted 18 May , 2018 (edited) Hi, Soldiers Effects* has him as "death presumed". The IRRC have an index card. I wonder who Miss Oldham was? His 'will' is here Regards Chris Edit: *The amount of war gratuity is indicative of war service counting fro circa June 1915. Charlie said "ForcesWarRecords have a Hospital Admissions entry for him dated 4/8/17, Chilled Feet, and show his unit as C Company 16th Service Bn (Chatsworth Rifles).". There is a record for a 26363 Houldsworth who joined and was posted to the 16th Bn on 26th May 1915. Unusually, his record shows... ...then overseas with the battalion when they first arrived on 6th March 1916. I guess that it is possible that Fred followed the same path/time line. Edited 18 May , 2018 by clk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 18 May , 2018 Share Posted 18 May , 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, clk said: I wonder who Miss Oldham was? She married Harry Butler in 1919. I wonder whether a brother took Fred's place? She is on the 1911 Census at 24 Colville Street Derby. Aged 11. That's probably her on the 39 Register for Derby, born 1899. Charlie Edited 18 May , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 18 May , 2018 Share Posted 18 May , 2018 Do you have any information about Pte., 3243 Fred Butler Sherwood Foresters died of wounds 5 July 1916 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 18 May , 2018 Share Posted 18 May , 2018 14 minutes ago, little bob said: Pte., 3243 Fred Butler Sherwood Foresters died of wounds 5 July 1916 ? SDGW gives Enlisted Belper, Derbyshire Place of Residence Duffield, Derbyshire Service Number 3243 Private Died of Wounds Place of Death France & Flanders Date of Death 5th July 1916 Regiment Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment), 1/5th Battalion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 18 May , 2018 Share Posted 18 May , 2018 Thank you Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 18 May , 2018 Share Posted 18 May , 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, little bob said: Pte., 3243 Fred Butler Sherwood Foresters died of wounds 5 July 1916 ? Forces War Records have a Hospital Admissions record here Basically admitted 3/7/16 Gunshotwounds both legs and died 2 days later, No 2 Gen Hospital, Le Havre. Had been in France 4 months. Aged 23 Probably son of George and Hannah, Duffield census 1901 ? What does CWGC say ? Edited 18 May , 2018 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 18 May , 2018 Share Posted 18 May , 2018 (edited) Hi little bob, 34 minutes ago, little bob said: Do you have any information about Pte., 3243 Fred Butler Sherwood Foresters died of wounds 5 July 1916 ? He has some papers - FMP here. The 'headlines' of which seem to be: Enlisted - 31.10.1914 Overseas - 4.3.1916 Leg wounds - 1.7.1916 ( at 41 CCS 2.7.1916) Died 2 GH - 5.7.1916 Regards Chris Edited 18 May , 2018 by clk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 19 May , 2018 Share Posted 19 May , 2018 Charlie & Chris, Many thanks for the information. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD ROBIN HOOD Posted 19 May , 2018 Author Share Posted 19 May , 2018 Greetings from Sherwood. Concerning "my " Fred Butler. I know that he did have a brother who was two years older than him named Harry so it looks as if he did actually take his younger brothers place by marrying Miss Oldham As far as the other Fred Butler goes I know nothing about him but I see that others do. The name Butler is common around these parts, I myself know two, and in ww1 the first name of Fred oftern crops up. Anyway , this topic has been interesting. Old Robin Hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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