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26367 Pvt Fred Butler 2/7 Notts & Derby Regt

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OLD ROBIN HOOD

Greetings from the Forest of Sherwood  . Weather beautiful, a lovely place to be.

 

A new research project . 26367 Private Fred Butler 2/7th ( Robin Hoods )  Notts & Derby Regt.

K.I.A. 21st March 1918.

Born and lived Ockbrook Derby . son of George and Louisa Butler. I think born 1896 or 1897

Worked in the mines.   That is what I have  any other information gratefully received

 

                                                 Old Robin Hood

 

 

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charlie962

ForcesWarRecords have a Hospital Admissions entry for him dated 4/8/17, Chilled Feet, and show his unit as C Company 16th Service Bn (Chatsworth Rifles).

From the 31st Ambulance Train, Bandaghem to Calais.

 

I am sure he wasn't the only one with cold feet at that time.

 

Charlie

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little bob

Ancestry has a few pages of Freds  service record, enlisted 26/5/1915. Not very much I'm afraid.

 

Bob

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OLD ROBIN HOOD

Hi Charlie & Bob

 

As usual a very big THANK YOU for the information. I didn't have a lot on  Fred Butler , now I have much more.

I  really am grateful . Also all who have viewed my post now know who he was.

 

                                                                    Old Robin Hood

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clk
Posted (edited)

Hi,

 

Soldiers Effects* has him as "death presumed". The IRRC have an index card.

 

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I wonder who Miss Oldham was?

 

His 'will' is here

 

Regards

Chris

 

Edit:

*The amount of war gratuity is indicative of war service counting fro circa June 1915.

 

Charlie said "ForcesWarRecords have a Hospital Admissions entry for him dated 4/8/17, Chilled Feet, and show his unit as C Company 16th Service Bn (Chatsworth Rifles).". There is a record for a 26363 Houldsworth who joined and was posted to the 16th Bn on 26th May 1915. Unusually, his record shows...

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...then overseas with the battalion when they first arrived on 6th March 1916. I guess that it is possible that Fred followed the same path/time line.

 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, clk said:

I wonder who Miss Oldham was?

She married Harry Butler in 1919. I wonder whether a brother took Fred's place?

 

She is on the 1911 Census at  24 Colville Street Derby. Aged 11.  That's probably her on the 39 Register for Derby, born 1899.

 

Charlie

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little bob

Do you have any information about  Pte., 3243  Fred Butler  Sherwood Foresters   died of wounds  5 July 1916 ?

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charlie962
14 minutes ago, little bob said:

Pte., 3243  Fred Butler  Sherwood Foresters   died of wounds  5 July 1916 ?

SDGW gives

Enlisted    Belper, Derbyshire

Place of Residence        Duffield, Derbyshire

Service Number    3243

 Private

Died of Wounds

Place of Death    France & Flanders

Date of Death     5th July 1916

Regiment        Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment), 1/5th Battalion

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little bob

Thank you Charlie

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charlie962
Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, little bob said:

Pte., 3243  Fred Butler  Sherwood Foresters   died of wounds  5 July 1916 ?

Forces War Records have a Hospital Admissions record here

Basically admitted 3/7/16 Gunshotwounds both legs and died 2 days later, No 2 Gen Hospital, Le Havre. Had been in France 4 months.

Aged 23

 

 

Probably son of George and Hannah, Duffield census 1901 ? What does CWGC say ?

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clk
Posted (edited)

Hi little bob,

 

34 minutes ago, little bob said:

Do you have any information about  Pte., 3243  Fred Butler  Sherwood Foresters   died of wounds  5 July 1916 ?

 

He has some papers - FMP here. The 'headlines' of which seem to be:

 

Enlisted - 31.10.1914

Overseas - 4.3.1916

Leg wounds - 1.7.1916 ( at 41 CCS 2.7.1916)

Died 2 GH - 5.7.1916

 

Regards

Chris

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little bob

Charlie & Chris,

Many thanks for the information.

 

Bob

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OLD ROBIN HOOD

Greetings from Sherwood.

Concerning "my " Fred Butler. I know that he did have a brother who was two years older than him named Harry

so it looks as if he did actually take his younger brothers place by marrying Miss Oldham

 

As far as the other Fred Butler goes I know nothing about him but I see that others do.

The name Butler is common around these parts, I myself know two, and in ww1 the first name of Fred

oftern  crops up.   Anyway , this topic has been interesting.

 

                                       Old Robin Hood

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