GreyC Posted 26 April , 2018 Share Posted 26 April , 2018 (edited) Hi, just came across the word "booty". I wonder how it´s use differs from that of prey. My understanding is that prey refers more to animals and hunting whereas booty refers to things taken by pirates, burglars, soldiers/mercenaries after having robbed/looted a place? Can someone please help clarify this for me? Thank you, GreyC Edited 26 April , 2018 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 26 April , 2018 Share Posted 26 April , 2018 I would say that, in English English, booty has no connection with prey. It is the proceeds of an enterprise as you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 26 April , 2018 Share Posted 26 April , 2018 That's correct, GreyC. I did Google the word, and there's another meaning, helpfully illustrated by a YouTube video clip that appeared at the top of my screen featuring a song by Jennifer Lopez. I won't link to it, because it would take us off-topic. Some of us might use the word lightheartedly to refer to acquisitions made at a collectors' fair or clearance sale, for example. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 26 April , 2018 Author Share Posted 26 April , 2018 Thank´s a lot to both of you, gentlemen! GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 27 April , 2018 Share Posted 27 April , 2018 Hello! In my dictionary, "booty" has two meanings: 1. (Kriegs) Beute, Raub (legal or criminal) 2. Beute, Fang (zoology) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 27 April , 2018 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2018 Thanks Andy! I have the suspicion, though, that the use in zoology might be possible but is not in use as much as prey. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawryleslie Posted 27 April , 2018 Share Posted 27 April , 2018 (edited) Just to add that "Booty", short for "Bootneck", is also the generic nickname given to HM Royal Marines by their Naval seagoing counterparts. Edited 27 April , 2018 by Lawryleslie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechhill Posted 27 April , 2018 Share Posted 27 April , 2018 19 hours ago, Moonraker said: That's correct, GreyC. I did Google the word, and there's another meaning, helpfully illustrated by a YouTube video clip that appeared at the top of my screen featuring a song by Jennifer Lopez. I won't link to it, because it would take us off-topic. Some of us might use the word lightheartedly to refer to acquisitions made at a collectors' fair or clearance sale, for example. Moonraker I'd say even the acquisition of the contemporary colloquialism involves a good deal of enterprise and conquest, so not entirely off topic. I'll get me coat ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 27 April , 2018 Share Posted 27 April , 2018 Here`s what the Oxford English Dictionary says:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 27 April , 2018 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2018 Thank you alle for your contributions! The contemporary German word for booty is BEUTE. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 27 April , 2018 Share Posted 27 April , 2018 Booty = plunder or 'the spoils of war'. In translation of, for example, an after-raid report, 'Beute' = captured documents/equipment/weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 28 April , 2018 Share Posted 28 April , 2018 Its use to mean "captured" is quite well known in connection with tanks - "beutepanzer" meaning a British tank salvaged and used by the Germans. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healdav Posted 28 April , 2018 Share Posted 28 April , 2018 Royal Marines are known in the RN as Boots, not booty (because they wore boots on the sailing ships when sailors were usually bare foot). I have a bill sent by the US Army in 1919 demanding that Luxembourg pay an amount greater than the entire national budget at the time 'in lieu of booty of war' for the value of a branch line which the Austrians had built during the war. It details exactly how many sleepers, rails (including spares), bolts and bit and pieces. It also says that no value has been charged for the bridges, viaducts and cutting. Gosh, thanks. The bill, which was presented on a proforma that you would use for buying pencils, was eventually squashed after an almighty row in which the US Embassy and even State Department took on the army. Som, booty is what you can get your hands on. Pillaging by any other word; or stealing if you like. Also known as liberating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawryleslie Posted 28 April , 2018 Share Posted 28 April , 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, healdav said: Royal Marines are known in the RN as Boots, not booty (because they wore boots on the sailing ships when sailors were usually bare foot). I have a bill sent by the US Army in 1919 demanding that Luxembourg pay an amount greater than the entire national budget at the time 'in lieu of booty of war' for the value of a branch line which the Austrians had built during the war. It details exactly how many sleepers, rails (including spares), bolts and bit and pieces. It also says that no value has been charged for the bridges, viaducts and cutting. Gosh, thanks. The bill, which was presented on a proforma that you would use for buying pencils, was eventually squashed after an almighty row in which the US Embassy and even State Department took on the army. Som, booty is what you can get your hands on. Pillaging by any other word; or stealing if you like. Also known as liberating. You’re wrong mate. Spent enough time serving with Booties to know that a Royal Marine was and still is known as a "Booty" or "Bootneck". Nothing to do with them wearing boots on sailing ships either. Their nickname is derived from their No 1 tunic which has a high collar and to stop this from chafing their neck Royal Marines would stitch an old soft leather tongue from a well worn pair of boots around the inside of the collar. Hence Bootneck. Edited 28 April , 2018 by Lawryleslie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healdav Posted 29 April , 2018 Share Posted 29 April , 2018 8 hours ago, Lawryleslie said: You’re wrong mate. Spent enough time serving with Booties to know that a Royal Marine was and still is known as a "Booty" or "Bootneck". Nothing to do with them wearing boots on sailing ships either. Their nickname is derived from their No 1 tunic which has a high collar and to stop this from chafing their neck Royal Marines would stitch an old soft leather tongue from a well worn pair of boots around the inside of the collar. Hence Bootneck. Never ever heard them called anything but Boots. In fact, when I was at Staff College the Marine Officer used to describe himself as a Boot. To be fair, he was thick as two short planks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 29 April , 2018 Share Posted 29 April , 2018 24 minutes ago, healdav said: Never ever heard them called anything but Boots. In fact, when I was at Staff College the Marine Officer used to describe himself as a Boot. To be fair, he was thick as two short planks. You give me great confidence in the Staff College and its graduates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawryleslie Posted 29 April , 2018 Share Posted 29 April , 2018 2 hours ago, healdav said: Never ever heard them called anything but Boots. In fact, when I was at Staff College the Marine Officer used to describe himself as a Boot. To be fair, he was thick as two short planks. Similarly never heard them referred to as Boots. I was talking to a friend who served with 29 Commando RA and he confirmed the reason for the nickname "Bootnecks". He did say that the USAMC are known as "Leathernecks" for similar reason. Maybe Boots is officer speak but I’ve certainly never heard of it until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healdav Posted 29 April , 2018 Share Posted 29 April , 2018 4 hours ago, Lawryleslie said: Similarly never heard them referred to as Boots. I was talking to a friend who served with 29 Commando RA and he confirmed the reason for the nickname "Bootnecks". He did say that the USAMC are known as "Leathernecks" for similar reason. Maybe Boots is officer speak but I’ve certainly never heard of it until now. Over many, many years, going back into my childhood, Marines were always called, and called themselves Boots. Never Booty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawryleslie Posted 30 April , 2018 Share Posted 30 April , 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, healdav said: Over many, many years, going back into my childhood, Marines were always called, and called themselves Boots. Never Booty. It’s very strange this. In my 34 year RN career I served with 539 Squadron RM as a support engineer for 2 years, 2 years on HMS Bulwark which was a Commando Carrier and worked closely with 40 and 42 Commando in San Carlos Landings during the Falklands conflict. Always known as Booties or Bootnecks never Boots. I’ve tried googling the term Boots in relation to Royal Marine nicknames and it always reverts to Bootneck in the search. Lets agree to disagree on this. Edited 30 April , 2018 by Lawryleslie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healdav Posted 3 June , 2019 Share Posted 3 June , 2019 On 29/04/2018 at 10:15, PhilB said: You give me great confidence in the Staff College and its graduates. The other instructors were very good. They regarded this bloke with amusement His best was when we were discussing studying history and someone came in. He said, "We were discussing histrionics; studying history". And Boots were because they wore boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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