Hereford Horseman Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 Trying to find out more about some old photos for a friend. The chap in the kilt is identified only as Frank Dyke but his connections live in Herefordshire, hence the puzzle about his regiment (the card with him holding a rifle is captioned, "Taken under difficulties. Sgts. chaffing for all they were worth. No wonder my face slipped a bit"). The two lads are Ted and Bert Thomas, I am guessing Shropshire Yeomanry since Herefordshire never had a mounted Yeomanry. Of the last one (the chap and his mum?) there is no information. So, for those of you who enjoy detective work, have fun! HH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hereford Horseman said: Trying to find out more about some old photos for a friend. The chap in the kilt is identified only as Frank Dyke but his connections live in Herefordshire, hence the puzzle about his regiment (the card with him holding a rifle is captioned, "Taken under difficulties. Sgts. chaffing for all they were worth. No wonder my face slipped a bit"). The two lads are Ted and Bert Thomas, I am guessing Shropshire Yeomanry since Herefordshire never had a mounted Yeomanry. Of the last one (the chap and his mum?) there is no information. So, for those of you who enjoy detective work, have fun! HH. Is 'Bert', Albert or Herbert ? A Herbert Thomas served as #1938 Shropshire Yeomanry from 29 Sep 14, later transferred to the KSLI. Born June/July 1895. Craig Edited 2 February , 2018 by ss002d6252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 (edited) Could he be CSM Frank Dyke, 7880, 9 Seaforth Highlanders, later CSM, 34710, Labour Corps? RM Edited 2 February , 2018 by rolt968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 Frank's uniform looks like it could possibly the Seaforth Highlanders. A Frank Dyke of Gloucester served with the Seaforth's as #828 . Reached the rank of Sgt before being discharged age 40 in 1904. Did he rejoin later ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heid the Ba Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 Looks like a Seaforth to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 He was 40 in 1904 when he completed his service. 9 minutes ago, rolt968 said: Could he be CSM Frank Dyke, 7880, 9 Seaforth Highlanders, later CSM, 34710, Labour Corps? RM Odd, 7880 would have enlisted in 1903/4? RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 11 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: Frank's uniform looks like it could possibly the Seaforth Highlanders. A Frank Dyke of Gloucester served with the Seaforth's as #828 . Reached the rank of Sgt before being discharged age 40 in 1904. Did he rejoin later ? Craig He had both South Africa medals and an "India" medal. Does that look like the group of ribbons he is wearing. He was 40 in 1904. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 (edited) For reference, These are the medals #828 Drake had in 1904 if they can't see them elsewhere. I'm no good with medals but it does look like he has a few in both pictures. The one on the far right could be the KSA, it seems to have 3 different coloured stripes. Craig Edited 2 February , 2018 by ss002d6252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 2 February , 2018 Admin Share Posted 2 February , 2018 Chap with Mum has black buttons, cap badge isn't that clear but possibly KRRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 19 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: Chap with Mum has black buttons, cap badge isn't that clear but possibly KRRC? This chap has a small straight shoulder title rather than a larger Territorial Battalion "T" Shoulder title, so I would agree that he is a member of the King's Royal Rifle Corps. Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loader Posted 2 February , 2018 Share Posted 2 February , 2018 The kilted NCO is certainly wearing the ribbons of the IGS, QSA & KSA. Nice photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereford Horseman Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 Thank you all for your prompt responses.... I will ask some questions of the family now I have something to go on. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereford Horseman Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 12 hours ago, Loader said: The kilted NCO is certainly wearing the ribbons of the IGS, QSA & KSA. Nice photos. I cleaned them us best I could, mainly contrast and mid-shades since they were very faded. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 As an aside, the bayonet seems to have lost it's point, perhaps being encased with a cork or similar. Would this have been normal practice when a bayonet is attached to a rifle but not in imminent chance of being used in anger?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereford Horseman Posted 3 February , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2018 4 minutes ago, Jim Strawbridge said: As an aside, the bayonet seems to have lost it's point, perhaps being encased with a cork or similar. Would this have been normal practice when a bayonet is attached to a rifle but not in imminent chance of being used in anger?. I think that is just camera blur.... a slight movement would 'increase' the visible tip making it appear squared off. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neale1961 Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 I suspect the chap with mother might be a younger version of Frank in the kilt? Same nose and chin. Less puffy eyes, but the light falls differently. Mother looks to be holding some sort of plaque, document or scroll? - as if it is on show ...... maybe helpful or not in dating photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolymoleyRE Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 There is a definite family resemblence, but the overseas chevrons would suggest that it isn't Frank....his son Frank junior was born in 1899/1900 on the 1901 and 1911 Census, can't see any other son's on Census. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 3 February , 2018 Share Posted 3 February , 2018 2 hours ago, Neale1961 said: I suspect the chap with mother might be a younger version of Frank in the kilt? Same nose and chin. Less puffy eyes, but the light falls differently. Mother looks to be holding some sort of plaque, document or scroll? - as if it is on show ...... maybe helpful or not in dating photo. A nice idea, but I don't think it will work. 828, Frank Dyke originally enlisted in KRRC in January 1883 (sn. 600) then transferred to the Seaforth Highlanders on 1 October 1883 as private. The photo must date from at the earliest the spring of 1918 ( as Andy points out - overseas chevrons). RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 4 February , 2018 Share Posted 4 February , 2018 (edited) There is a Bertie Dyke who was 995, Dorset Yeomanry who transferred to the RFC on 15 March 1916. There should be an RAF record. (MIC - ancestry) RM On the other hand there was a William Dyke who was 1817, Shropshire Yeomanry then 230214, KSLI, probably when the Shropshire Yeomanry was dismounted. He had both a Silver War Badge and a TF War Medal. Presumably first went abroad as a private. British War Medal and Victory Medal as Sergeant. RM Edited 4 February , 2018 by rolt968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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