The Four Garfield brothers of Warmington

[Watkin55]

I am investigating the story of the 4 Garfield Brothers of Warmington and William Charles Garfield Regimental No 17102.

 

So far we know he was probably killed by machine gun fire on 3rd May 1917 but it is not whether it was the morning or afternoon action.

 

I would like to establish which company he was in and if possible which in which action he was killed. I know there were 120 casualties and that the second action recovered wounded. Did they also recover the dead?

 

Appreciate any information no matter how small.

Edited 22 January , 2018 by Watkin55

[Stebie9173]

He joined the Northamptonshire Regiment on about 25 January 1915 and was originally posted to the 8th Battalion for training. He first served overseas with 7th Battalion. I haven't found a 1914-15 Star entry for him, so overseas service was probably from early 1916. He was reported as Wounded as a Private per Times of 20-9-1916 - though no battalion was shown, the list contains mainly men who were wounded with 7th Battalion at Guillemont in August 1916. He thereafter transferred to 6th Battalion - I would guess joining 6th Battalion due to major casualties at Boom Ravine in February 1917.

 

The Peterborough Advertiser of 26-5-1917 stated:

 

“Private William Garfield, Northants Regiment of Warmington was killed in action in France. He had previously been wounded and had rejoined his regiment. The deceased leaves a widow and three young children.

 

He was an old scholar of the Wesleyan Sunday School and as a last token of respect a very impressive service was held in the chapel on Sunday evening conducted by Mr Burdett of Kettering, who preached a very appropriate sermon. At the close, the Dead March was played by the organist, the congregation standing.”

 

Discovering which company he was in, or how and when he died will be difficult. I am not aware of any deeper detail being available on casualties at Cherisy.

 

 

I believe there used to be a website on the Garfield brothers, but is seems to no longer exist.

 

 

Other brothers:

 

• Lance-Corporal Ernest Robert Garfield, 16393 Northamptonshire Regiment,  enlisted about 9-11-1914;  a L/Cpl. with "A" Coy., 7th Bn. per Embarkation Roll; entitled to 1914-15 Star/BWM/VM; medals claimed via Commissioner of Met Police for PCs. Per 1918 Absent Voters List - Peterborough District, voter ref. #5782, Church Street, Warmington, 16393, Private, 7th Northants; transferred to Class Z on 6 March 1919.
• Arthur James Garfield, 117469, 36 Motor Transport Company, A.S.C. (per AVL)
• Frank Garfield, 31911 West Yorkshire Regiment (Per AVL)

 

 

Steve.

 

 

 

 

Edited 22 January , 2018 by Stebie9173

[sotonmate]

The other brothers seem to be:

Ernest Robert 16393 Northamptonshire R, posted to 7 Battalion, landed in France 1.9.1915,discharged to Class Z Reserve on 6.3.1919.

Walter Stapleton 16389 Notts and Derbys R, enlisted 7.9.1914, posted to 12 Battalion 30.8.1915, transferred to 647928 Labour Corps, discharged sick to Silver War Badge 28.2.1919.

The third is  Arthur James (20 in the 1911 Census), the only one I can find in the Medal Cards is an RGA Gunner 167188, from Rotherham, and he seems to be another man entirely as he was 10 years older than this brother, so there may be another answer, maybe another service ?

Edited 22 January , 2018 by sotonmate

[Watkin55]

Evening guys,

 

so grateful, my wife grandmother Ethel Somme Garfield/East/Oliver was William Charles Garfield's daughter.

we did not know about the previous wounding. 

 

We are so grateful for your help.

 

best wishes

 

Mike Ward

[geraldine harradine]

My name is Geraldine Harradine nee Garfield -

William Charles Garfield was my grandad father to William Garfield from Warmington

[geraldine harradine]

On ‎22‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 22:46, Stebie9173 said:

He joined the Northamptonshire Regiment on about 25 January 1915 and was originally posted to the 8th Battalion for training. He first served overseas with 7th Battalion. I haven't found a 1914-15 Star entry for him, so overseas service was probably from early 1916. He was reported as Wounded as a Private per Times of 20-9-1916 - though no battalion was shown, the list contains mainly men who were wounded with 7th Battalion at Guillemont in August 1916. He thereafter transferred to 6th Battalion - I would guess joining 6th Battalion due to major casualties at Boom Ravine in February 1917.

 

The Peterborough Advertiser of 26-5-1917 stated:

 

“Private William Garfield, Northants Regiment of Warmington was killed in action in France. He had previously been wounded and had rejoined his regiment. The deceased leaves a widow and three young children.

 

He was an old scholar of the Wesleyan Sunday School and as a last token of respect a very impressive service was held in the chapel on Sunday evening conducted by Mr Burdett of Kettering, who preached a very appropriate sermon. At the close, the Dead March was played by the organist, the congregation standing.”

 

Discovering which company he was in, or how and when he died will be difficult. I am not aware of any deeper detail being available on casualties at Cherisy.

 

 

I believe there used to be a website on the Garfield brothers, but is seems to no longer exist.

 

 

Other brothers:

 

• Lance-Corporal Ernest Robert Garfield, 16393 Northamptonshire Regiment,  enlisted about 9-11-1914;  a L/Cpl. with "A" Coy., 7th Bn. per Embarkation Roll; entitled to 1914-15 Star/BWM/VM; medals claimed via Commissioner of Met Police for PCs. Per 1918 Absent Voters List - Peterborough District, voter ref. #5782, Church Street, Warmington, 16393, Private, 7th Northants; transferred to Class Z on 6 March 1919.
• Arthur James Garfield, 117469, 36 Motor Transport Company, A.S.C. (per AVL)
• Frank Garfield, 31911 West Yorkshire Regiment (Per AVL)

 

 

Steve.

 

 

 

 

 

Hi I am also in touch with a cousin from Sutton in Ashfield and this is in relation to another brother C W Garfield

[geraldine harradine]

On ‎22‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 22:46, Stebie9173 said:

He joined the Northamptonshire Regiment on about 25 January 1915 and was originally posted to the 8th Battalion for training. He first served overseas with 7th Battalion. I haven't found a 1914-15 Star entry for him, so overseas service was probably from early 1916. He was reported as Wounded as a Private per Times of 20-9-1916 - though no battalion was shown, the list contains mainly men who were wounded with 7th Battalion at Guillemont in August 1916. He thereafter transferred to 6th Battalion - I would guess joining 6th Battalion due to major casualties at Boom Ravine in February 1917.

 

The Peterborough Advertiser of 26-5-1917 stated:

 

“Private William Garfield, Northants Regiment of Warmington was killed in action in France. He had previously been wounded and had rejoined his regiment. The deceased leaves a widow and three young children.

 

He was an old scholar of the Wesleyan Sunday School and as a last token of respect a very impressive service was held in the chapel on Sunday evening conducted by Mr Burdett of Kettering, who preached a very appropriate sermon. At the close, the Dead March was played by the organist, the congregation standing.”

 

Discovering which company he was in, or how and when he died will be difficult. I am not aware of any deeper detail being available on casualties at Cherisy.

 

 

I believe there used to be a website on the Garfield brothers, but is seems to no longer exist.

 

 

Other brothers:

 

• Lance-Corporal Ernest Robert Garfield, 16393 Northamptonshire Regiment,  enlisted about 9-11-1914;  a L/Cpl. with "A" Coy., 7th Bn. per Embarkation Roll; entitled to 1914-15 Star/BWM/VM; medals claimed via Commissioner of Met Police for PCs. Per 1918 Absent Voters List - Peterborough District, voter ref. #5782, Church Street, Warmington, 16393, Private, 7th Northants; transferred to Class Z on 6 March 1919.
• Arthur James Garfield, 117469, 36 Motor Transport Company, A.S.C. (per AVL)
• Frank Garfield, 31911 West Yorkshire Regiment (Per AVL)

 

 

Steve.

 

 

 

 

 

William Charles was my Grandad we are putting a wreath up on Sunday for him and Sgt pilot W J Garfield