Otto Farm and Outskirt Farm Paschendaele 1917

[Frank Flanders]

Can anyone tell me where Otto Farm (pillbox) and Outskirt Farm at Passchendaele was located  (oct-nov 1917).,

a map would of course be very welcome.

On 29th October 1917 Otto Fm.was the Battalion HQ of the RCR, on the 30th HQ of the 42nd. Btn.

for on that day  30th the RCR HQ moved to Waterloo Pill Box (probably at Waterloo farm so?).

On Nov 4th the RCR HQ was at Meetcheele Pill box, later in November their HQ was at Outskirt Farm

 

(Waterloo Farm and Meetcheele are known to me.)

 

Edited 26 November , 2017 by Frank Flanders
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[Chris_B]

From McMaster's search  at http://library.mcmaster.ca/maps/ww1/ndx5to40.htm

 

Otto Farm [& pillboxes]    Zonnebeke    28NE1    D 15 a 1.1
Outskirt Farm    St Julien    28NW2    I 2 b 1.8

 

Can be located via  http://maps.nls.uk. e.g:  http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=50.8873&lon=2.9773&layers=101464912&b=1

 

[Frank Flanders]

Thank you Chris, apprecaited,

haven't yet found Outskirt Farm on the map,

will have to look closer I guess

[CROONAERT]

Here's an extract (July 30 1917) with both locations highlighted ....

 

Dave

 

 

[Frank Flanders]

Thank you for this map as well. Knowing the area I can approximately figure out where Outskirt Farm so was.

It should be at about what is now Pilkemseweg 47 Ieper (St. Jan). I'll checked it further on at the rpevious link you sent me (in overlay).

THANKS AGAIN

Edited 28 November , 2017 by Frank Flanders

[Aurel Sercu]

Outskirt Farm was between the Pilkemseweg en the (now) Dehemlaan. Right behind the building of the 'Thuiszorgwinkel'.

Aurel

[Chris_B]

While Aurel's got his tape measure out and walking down the road,  I always forget about the "tmapper.com" website.   Don't know if this url will get you there: 

http://www.tmapper.com/mapping/showmap.php

 

But the Trench Map sheet co-ords to modern gps position translates as:  Sheet 28.I.2.b.10.80    28    I    2    b    10    80    50.863238    2.89088

[Frank Flanders]

7 hours ago, Aurel Sercu said:

Outskirt Farm was between the Pilkemseweg en the (now) Dehemlaan. Right behind the building of the 'Thuiszorgwinkel'.

Aurel

Thx, Indeed, I measured the location  from the overlaymap, though seen from Pilkemseweg for the entrance to Outskirt farm was on that side. It's about at nr.37, and at the same hight of the Thuiszorgwinkel. The place of the farm itself is now in the lower part of the golf terrain, apprx. a 100m inwards.