tootrock Posted 31 July , 2017 Share Posted 31 July , 2017 The CWGC description of Tyne Cot cemetery states that the Cross of Sacrifice is built over a German pill-box, and that there are three other pill-boxes in the cemetery. I am familiar with the two near the lower end of the cemetery, but where was (is) the third? Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIFFO Posted 31 July , 2017 Share Posted 31 July , 2017 One under the cross of sacrifice ,the two small towers at the back hide one block house each,the Germans nearly always built block houses in fives,so they could protect each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 31 July , 2017 Share Posted 31 July , 2017 42 minutes ago, BIFFO said: One under the cross of sacrifice ,the two small towers at the back hide one block house each,the Germans nearly always built block houses in fives,so they could protect each other The theory about the groups of 5 is not correct. The bunkers at Tyne Cot are part of the (first) Flandern Stellung, 1st and 2nd Line. There were continuous lines of bunkers built at a certain interval. Especially here the lines were well built and of course quite a few bunkers remain (there's also the one at Hamburg Farm nearby and archaeological digs and reserach have been done that found quite a few others in the area). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIFFO Posted 1 August , 2017 Share Posted 1 August , 2017 SO OK, not five ? go check out where the gardeners keep their tools, you will find its in the 2 bunkers that are at the ends of the rear wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 1 August , 2017 Share Posted 1 August , 2017 2 minutes ago, BIFFO said: SO OK, not five ? go check out where the gardeners keep their tools, you will find its in the 2 bunkers that are at the ends of the rear wall There are way more than 5 bunkers in the immediate area. I know very well that there are 5 on the actual area of the cemetery, but if you go a tiny bit further there's even more. I just don't agree with your theory that Germans built their bunkers in groups of 5. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIFFO Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 The post was locations of block houses in tyne cot ? my answer gave locations for the five as I stated NEARLY always built in fives the rest of your locations/comments I couldn't give a jot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 2 August , 2017 Share Posted 2 August , 2017 Jan Thanks for your information. TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootrock Posted 11 September , 2017 Author Share Posted 11 September , 2017 I asked the question of the CWGC, and have recently received the following marked-up plan:- Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMG65 Posted 8 December , 2017 Share Posted 8 December , 2017 The bunker in the top right (45) is apparently under the cemetery. The row of graves where it is meant to be stops two headstones shorter than the other rows. I photographed it in November. There is no bunker in Hamburg Farm, I speak passable Flemish and I spoke to the farmer. He said there was no bunker and he let me look around. Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 8 December , 2017 Share Posted 8 December , 2017 3 hours ago, SMG65 said: The bunker in the top right (45) is apparently under the cemetery. The row of graves where it is meant to be stops two headstones shorter than the other rows. I photographed it in November. There is no bunker in Hamburg Farm, I speak passable Flemish and I spoke to the farmer. He said there was no bunker and he let me look around. Sean Believe me, there is a bunker, it is well hidden under junk. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMG65 Posted 9 December , 2017 Share Posted 9 December , 2017 I must admit that the state of the farm would allow you to hide more than one bunker. We were both in a mild state of shock, me due to the appearance of the farmer and him due to the fact that an Englishman spoke in Flemish. He was adamant there wasn't a bunker but he may have said it so many times he is very convincing. He told me about the ones that used to be in the field next to the farm. Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mebu Posted 9 December , 2017 Share Posted 9 December , 2017 It's under this pile of rubbish. Perhaps the farmer could not find it. It is now also recorded in the Flemish heritage inventaris. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrenchrat22 Posted 9 December , 2017 Share Posted 9 December , 2017 Just looking at Trench Maps Sheet 28 N.E. Corrected to 3rd July 1917, shows a structure in Red at Hamburg Farm but does not show before or after this date. In the visitor structure at Tyne Cot is a Map of the cemetery, which shows the bunkers in the said cemetery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mebu Posted 9 December , 2017 Share Posted 9 December , 2017 The Hamburg bunker may not be shown on maps when in British hands as it is of no useful information. It is certainly shown in 1918 when back in German hands. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertkellens Posted 13 April , 2023 Share Posted 13 April , 2023 Here is Indigo/Barnacle and in the distance the bunker of Hamburg Farm (ca 1920) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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