Salford Cathedral Memorial Chapel

[RexGregorian]

Dear all,

 

I am coming to the end of my project to produce a book on the lives of the 636 men commemorated in the Salford RC Cathedral War Memorial chapel, we are hoping to raise money towards the chapel restoration next year.

 

After about 3 years of research I have identified all but 30 of the men in the chapel, who are still eluding me. There is varying information on each of them in the chapel, the only requirement for their identification would be that they would be Catholics with some connection to the Salford Diocese, which covers South and East Lancashire, so the southern boundary is the River Mersey, and up to the Ribble Valley, but not Merseyside etc.

 

The below is the list of the last 30, if anyone is able to shed any light onto who any of these men might be, I would be very grateful for the help, having managed to do the other 600 odd, I am hoping to be able to at least fill a couple more of the blanks.

 

Thanks

 

Lawrence Gregory

Private JC Chapman, died May 1916. Also on Holy Name Church, Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, War Memorial.

Private E. Eastwood, June 1915

William Garside, of Oldham

Private R. Grey, died Nov 1914

John Halton of Whalley Range/Moss Side

Private J. Hennessy, died July 1918

Private J. Johnson, died June 1918

Able Seaman J. Jones died Dec 1918

Private J. Kelly, died 1914

Private A. Kennedy, died Nov 1918

Private George Knight, died Dec 1920 in Salford, age 36.

William Lomas of Oldham

Private James S. Mallon

Private W. McCoy, died April 1917

Rifleman P. McGarry died May 1915

Private J. Mercer, died March 1918

Private P. Montgomery, died July 1916

Able Seaman J. O’Keefe, died Jan 1917

Private Francis O’Shea, died March 1920 in Salford.

Driver W. Palmer, died April 1923

Private J. Price. Died Feb 1916

Private J. Ramsbottom, died 1918

Joseph Rawlinson

Private John Robinson, of Middleton

Joseph Scott, of Levenshulme

Private T. Shaw died August 1918

Private A. Smith, died Dec 1917

Private Thomas Charles, died Dec 1922

Private JW Williams, died Nov 1918

Private T Williams died March 1917

Private JT Wilson, died Sep 1917

[Mark1959]

A quick question. How have you arrived at the date of death of these men? Can we assume accuracy or should we be looking more broadly? 

[Mark1959]

A possibility

James Stanislaus Mallon. Birth registered 3 rd quarter 1899 in Salford.

1901 address 19'Grantham St. Gorton All Saints. Father Albert, mother Margaret

1911 14 Neild St, Gorton with parents and siblings

1/5 ban S Lancs Regiment, 44497 and 1 LNLR 49094. Full name is given on the medal Roll

But no CWGC, Effects records or any death record at any time I can find. No proof he is RC.

[Mark1959]

Have you excluded this Wm Garside. 19708. Private. King's Own Royal Lancaster Regt. Died 11/7/17. 11 Bn.

Born Oldham c1885.

living in Saddleworth in 1891. Father Samuel mother Philis

1901 24 Hargreaves St Oldham. Father same, step mother Mary. Elder sister Mary E in both 1891 and 1901 records.

1911 same address. With same parents. 

The above address is same as on the chap's CWGC record. 

Enlsted Hollinwood, Oldham according to SDGW record

war Gratuity etc to his stepmother.

no extant service papers it seems. Nothing to show he was RC. 

Seems most likely of those on CWGC site. Wm Garside popular name in Oldham.

[RexGregorian]

On 12/05/2017 at 09:49, Mark1959 said:

A quick question. How have you arrived at the date of death of these men? Can we assume accuracy or should we be looking more broadly? 

The plaques on the walls of the memorial chapel contain varying amounts of information about the men, the information is very chaotic and has been added to as time went on, some have ranks, some don't, some have dates of death, some don't. But to complicate matters even more, some of the men I have accurately identified have incorrect information on the plaques.

[RexGregorian]

Thanks Mark,

I'll look up Mallon in the registers, Stanilaus is a very catholic name, so he sounds like a likely possibility.

 

With Garside I found two Oldham William Garsides killed in the war, but haven't been able to positively identify either as Catholic. It has been a minefield this project, I must have been mad to take it on!!

[Guest]

Dear Lawrence 

 

This is for posting this.

Joseph McGarry son of Patrick McGarry & Sarah Ann (Farrell) was my great uncle and brother of my grandfather, Thomas McGarry. 

Do you possibly have any more information?

 

Regards

Niall McGarry

[8055Bell]

Morning Rex,

I realise this is an old thread, but wonder if you've made progress with this roll of honour.  I have numerous Catholic non-commemorations that are not mentioned on the memorial and it would be good to compare notes.

Tim