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Headstamp Markings Rifle cartridge


Stuart Brown

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Brought on by a recent post.

Hello primer 55,

Welcome to the group.

Can you or Tom help out with this one ?

I make the length 52 mm.

It had a blade soldered into it to make a letter opener.

Stuart

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It seems to have the same headstamps as which indicates Egypt and looks like a mauser round....however here are bullet caselengths around the 52mm region.

51 x 7. 62mm Calibre. Bottleneck case. Common names;. 308 Winchester, 7. 62mm NATO. Weapons;Austrian StG rifle, Belgian FN FAL rifle and MAG GPMG. Canadian C1 and C1A1 rifles and C2 automatic rifle. French AAT52 LMG, German G1 rifle, G3 assault rifle, MG1, MG 42/59 LMGs, Italian Beretta Model 59 series rifles, japanese type 64 rifle and Type 62 LMG, Spanish Model 58 (CETME) assault rifle, Swedish 7. 62mm G4 assault rifle and Model 58 Mg, U. K. L1A1 rifle, L4A1 LMG and L7A1 GPMG, U. S. M14 rifle, M60 GPMG and M73 tank MG.

52 X 7. 35mm Calibre. Tapered bottleneck case. Common name;7. 35 Italian. Weapons;Italian Model 38 carbine, Model 38 rifleand Breda Model 38 LMG.

52. 5 X 6. 5mm Calibre. Tapered bottleneck case. Common name;6. 5mm Italian. Weapons;Italian Model 1891 Mannlicher-carcano carbine and rifle, Breda Model 30 LMG, Fiat-Revelli Model 1914 HMG. This is the ammunition found with Lee Harvey Oswalds Carcano. The headstamps on his ammunition shows that it was made by an American Company (WCC) and used by the Greeks during their Civil War in 1949. Lee bought these rounds when they came on sale as surplus in the 1960s.

53. 5 X 6. 5mm Calibre. Slightly tapered bottle nose case. Common names;6. 5mm Greek Mannlicher, 6. 5mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Weapons;Greek Model 1903/14 carbines and rifles.

53. 5 X 7. 65mm Calibre. Tapered bottleneck case. Common name;7. 65mm Mauser rifle. Weapons;Argentine Models 1891 and 1909 carbines and rifles, Belgian Models 1889, 1916, 1924, 1924/30 and 1930 carbines, Models 1889, 1924, 1924/30, 1930, 1935 and 1936 rifles, FN Browning HMG, Turkish Model 1891and 1903 rifles.

54 X 7. 5mm calibre. Tapered bottleneck case. Common names 7. 5mm Model 1929, 7. 5mm French. Weapons;French Models 07/15M34, 1936, 1936CR39, 1949 and 1949/56 rifles, Model 1924M29 automatic rifle, Model 1931A and AAT-52 LMGs.

54r X 6. 5mm Calibre. Rimmed tapered bottleneck case. Common names;6. 5mm Dutch Mannlicher, 6. 5mm Rumanian Mannlicher. Weapons;Dutch Model 1895 carbines and Models 1892 and 1895 rifles, Rumanian Model 1893 carbine and Models 1892 and 1893 rifles.

54r X 7. 62mm Calibre. Tapered rim, slightly tapered bottleneck case. Common names;7. 62mm Russian rimmed, 7. 62mm Type 53, 7. 62mm Model 59. Weapons;Chinese Communist Type 53 carbine, Type 53 LMG, Type 58Company MG, and Types 53 and 57 HMGs, Czechoslovak Model 59L LMG, and Model 57 HMG, Finnish Models 1891, 1891/27, 1928, 1928/30 and 1939 rifles, models1920 (Madsen)and 1926/30 (Lahti) LMGs and Model 1909 (Maxim) HMG, Soviet Model 1944 carbine;Models 1891/30 (Mosin Nagant) and 1940 (Tokarev) rifles, Models DP, DPM, DT, DTM, SG-43, SGM. SGMB, and SGMT MGs, Model RP-46 company MG, Model PK company MG, and Model 1910 (Maxim) HMG.

50. 5sr X 6. 5mm Calibre. Semi rimmed, tapered Bottleneck case. Common names;6. 5mm Japanese Type 38. Weapons;Italian manufactured Japanese Type 1 rifles, Japanese Types 30, 38, and 44 carbines, Types 30 and 38 rifles, Types 11 and 96 LMGs, Type 3 HMG, and Type 91 Tank MG.

50. 5r X 8mm Calibre. Rimmed, tapered bottleneck case. Common name;8mm Lebel. Weapons;French Models 1890, 1892 and 1916 carbines, Model 1888M93 pattern and Models 1902, 1907, 1907/15, 07/15M34, 1916, 1917, and 1918 rifles, Model 1915 automatic rifle and Model 1914 (Hotchkiss)HMG.

50. 5r X 8mm Calibre. Slightly tapered rimmed bottleneck case. Common names;8 X 50 Steyr, 8mm Austrian, 8mm Mannlicher rifle. Weapons;Austrian Models 1890 and 1895 carbines, Model1895 rifle and Model 07/12 (Schwarzlose)HMG.

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