kellysmith1976 Posted 17 November , 2016 Share Posted 17 November , 2016 My Great Grandfather Charles Loughan Was in the 1st Battalion, Leinster Regiment. I have looked into him, He was born in Ireland, Enlisted in Scotland... But he joined the Canadian regiment??.... I have also found out that His regiment arrived in France in Dec1914.. Charles Died 30th Jan 1915.. So he wasnt there long!.. His memorial is at Menin Gate, On a panel so i presume they never found his body. Anyway on the Effects left to his mother it had that he was in the Army Cycle Corps.. What did this involve?.. He was a Lance corporal.. I have tried to find a war diary, but cant find one for the 1st battalion... If anyone can give me any details of him or his regiment, that would be great! I have a great photo of him.. Thank you in Advance Kelly x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 17 November , 2016 Share Posted 17 November , 2016 Your reference to "the Canadian regiment" made me think that Charles Loughan might have been a member of the First Canadian Contingent, many of whose members were emigrants from the British Isles. The Contingent was on Salisbury Plain from mid-October 1914 to mid-February 1915, when it left for France, though a few members did arrive there late in 1914. But he does not feature in the list of members of the Contingent, nor in the attestation papers and service records of those who served with the Canadian Expeditionary Force during the war. And, as you imply, the CWGC shows him to have died a member of the Leinster Regiment. There's plenty of information elsewhere on the Forum about theArmy Cyclist Corps. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 17 November , 2016 Share Posted 17 November , 2016 From LLT The Prince of Wales’s Leinster Regiment (Royal Canadians) Battalions of the Regular Army 1st Battalion August 1914 : in Fyzabad, India. Returned to England, landing Plymouth on 16 November 1914. Moved to Winchester and came under orders of 82nd Brigade in 27th Division. 20 December 1914 : landed at Le Havre. Moved to Salonika, arriving 12 December 1915. 2 November 1916 : transferred to 29th Brigade in 10th (Irish) Division. Shows Canadian connection. He would have been transferred before 12 Dec 1915. Looking at the pic it would seem that he was in the army before the war and it was taken in India, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 17 November , 2016 Share Posted 17 November , 2016 (edited) Agree with jb, a pre-war photo. War Diary: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353482 Edited 17 November , 2016 by sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesmessenger Posted 17 November , 2016 Share Posted 17 November , 2016 I think that the confusion lies in Kelly believing that the Leinsters were a Canadian regiment, when in fact they were Irish. He would have been in the 27th Division Cyclist Company in France rather than with the Leinsters. Charles M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 17 November , 2016 Share Posted 17 November , 2016 An explanation for the title (Royal Canadians) added to the Leinster Regiment can be found here Charles Loughan 8708 1st Bn Leinster Regiment was attached to the 27th Divisional Coy Army Cycle Corps His will can be found HERE Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellysmith1976 Posted 18 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2016 Wow as ever.. Im amazed at you lot!... Thank you so much... Another day of reading me thinks!.. Thank you again!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellysmith1976 Posted 18 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2016 Just found the War diary on Ancestry, Its the Army Cycle Corps, 27th Division.. Its states when & Where he died!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 18 November , 2016 Share Posted 18 November , 2016 Brilliant Pleased you were able to look it up yourself consider yourself very lucky it not often O R are mentioned in the war diary's not only where but also the time It looks like your great grandfather Charles will have been buried on the battlefield close to where he fell His grave lost or destroyed in later fighting Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 18 November , 2016 Share Posted 18 November , 2016 Excellent sleuthing. We're talking Dikebusch/Dikkebuss, a few km SW of Ypres. Does anyone have any more information about the location of the No.9 Trench mentioned in the War Diary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellysmith1976 Posted 18 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2016 This particular war diary is so detailed.. Ive only read a few others.. most seem to be fairly generalised.. but this one even states who received court martial and lots of names etc.. Drunkeness & Leaving billet without permission! .. Not my Charles though!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 18 November , 2016 Share Posted 18 November , 2016 Charles service number 8708 indicates that he joined the Leinster Regiment between Jan 1908 and Feb 1909 8681 joined on 1st January 19089015 joined on 8th February 1909 In the group photo of the 1st Bn Leinster Regiment (photo cir 1909) The soldier top 3rd right looks remarkably like Charles Photo Source HERE Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellysmith1976 Posted 19 November , 2016 Author Share Posted 19 November , 2016 Wow!.. Thank you so much.. Yes agreed it does look like him.. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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