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Ertsatz bayonet ?


BlackSeptember1918

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Hi

This was a gift given to me around 15 years ago . I believe it's a wwi german ertsatz bayonet ? Could anyone give me any info on this please . The blade is 300mm long and it has a 4 digit number stamped on the muzzle ring , the muzzle ring is open . There's also either a stamp or gouge on the top of the blade ?

Thanks for any info

This is the number ...serial number ? And the mark at the top of the blade

Thanks !!

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Yes, a German 'ersatz', open muzzle ring is normal, there were a number of variants of this type. Someone who knows more than I, will no doubt be along presently.

Mike.

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...This was a gift given to me around 15 years ago . I believe it's a wwi german ertsatz bayonet ? Could anyone give me any info on this please . The blade is 300mm long and it has a 4 digit number stamped on the muzzle ring , the muzzle ring is open . ...

Yes, an Erstaz bayonet, made between October/November 1914 and sometime in 1915. This is basically Carter's Type 4. The number is almost certainly Turkish: large numbers of these were sent to Turkey in about 1916-1917. The mark on the blade is the German Inspector's fraktur mark - there might be one like it on the blade spine. The open 'muzzle ring' is to allow it to be fixed to the Gew.71, the Gew.88, or the Gew.98.

Trajan

EDIT: Many of the ones sent to Turkey were shortened - this one wasn't!

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Oh yeah , there is a stamp on the spine , slightly different . Never noticed that before !

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Spine stamp

Thanks guys !

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See what you mean about the blade spine mark - it does look different from the ricasso mark... I'll think on that, but both are a bit weakly stamped making it difficult to say what they are.

BYW, forgot to say, it is in nice condition, better than the ones I have - any markings on the back of the frog?

Trajan

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Thanks Trajan

There isn't any markings on the frog . I've tried to take a better image of the spine stamp

Thanks .

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