8055Bell Posted 17 January , 2016 Share Posted 17 January , 2016 Hi All, I can't find this chap on CWGC. I have little knowledge on the Merchant Navy and wonder if he should be commemorated somewhere? Tom served in the Merchant Navy. He had been born in Barton 16/9/1899, - probably the son of Thomas & Annie E Murray. This family lived Albion Street, Whalley Range in 1901. The Press Report shows Tom was serving on the Manchester Liners in Monte Video when he was accidentally killed in June 1918. His mother Annie lived in Moss Side. He was a former pupil at Manchester Warehouseman and Clerks Orphans' School and is commemorated on their Memorial in Chwadle. Any thoughts please, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive_hughes Posted 17 January , 2016 Share Posted 17 January , 2016 Tim, Sadly, if a merchant seaman died of causes not directly related to enemy action, there will be no CWGC commemoration. The rule isn't applied evenly since the Tower Hill Memorial sometimes covers the crews of ships who disappeared and who might have fallen victim to either storms or mines. Even crew on ships involved in collisions whilst travelling in RN-escorted convoys are discounted, or those who died through accident or illness abroad. That's quite a different matter from his commemoration locally in Manchester - various seamen who died of the causes above are likewise named on war memorials covering Anglesey. Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 17 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2016 Thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirrer Posted 22 January , 2016 Share Posted 22 January , 2016 He is listed as an Apprentice on Manchester Engineer on the 1915 Crew Lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 22 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 22 January , 2016 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 22 January , 2016 Share Posted 22 January , 2016 Just to add a few further details Tom was serving aboard the cargo ship the Manchester Port official Number 113130 in June 1918 The ship was at the time owned by Manchester Liners Tom died in hospital in Monte Video of a fractured skull on the 20th June 1918 (due to an accident) Details of the Manchester Port can be found here Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 24 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2016 Thanks Ray, Enlighten me. How on earth did you find the detail of his death??! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 24 January , 2016 Share Posted 24 January , 2016 My first Port of call was deaths at sea FMP Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 25 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2016 Thanks Ray, I had a free Week end on FMP but didn't know about those records. Very much off topic, but could you please look up James Mason who died at sea off Monrovia Montserrado, Liberia on 11/8/1874. Thanks Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 25 January , 2016 Share Posted 25 January , 2016 Hi Tim Sorry Tim Id love to help you out but its against forum rules to request look ups from commercial sites I suggest you make a note of it and wait for the next free weekend Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 25 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2016 I understand. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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