Cymro Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 I'd value the opinion of those ephemera experts out there on this 'operational order'. It accompanies a group of medals I am interesting and I simply dont know if this is likely to be a document produced at the time or a later re-print. It deals with the 114th Brigade's attack on Mametz wood in 1916. There is also a summary of orders in exactly the same format (same paper, same print) which summarises the orders given on 10th July. This (obviously) was produced after the events took place. I was wondering if any of the pals had copies of Brigade or Division-produced orders which look the same/have the same format. I know that it will not be possible to give a definitive answer but I'd welcome any thoughts. Thanks a lot Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Almost definately an original produced at the time. They're not all that uncommon (quite a few were produced at the same time) and I've got several regarding the Battle of Arras that were found amongst an ex-officer's possessions when he died in the 1970's. Mine all look pretty similar to yours. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Poilu Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Looks good, very thin paper, typeface and style looks right - as Dave said they would have been duplicated many times and distributed to various parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymro Posted 22 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Dave, thanks very much for that - I suspected they might be period produced. Good to hear from you again. Did you have any luck finding those 1915 Ypres trench maps? Regards J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymro Posted 22 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Thanks Giles - I think they're good 'uns! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard_Lewis Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Looks good to me. I am looking at the '38th (Welsh) Division Order no. 30' which is very similar in format though not quite as detailed. Got a copy of that from the War Diary of the Swansea Bn so its 'real'. Looks like someone 'down the chain' a bit has repeated the thrust of the higher level order and then added in unit specific detail. Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymro Posted 23 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 23 November , 2004 Bernard - good to hear from you again, I've sent a PM J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krithia Posted 24 November , 2004 Share Posted 24 November , 2004 For what it is worth, it looks correct to me ... paper, typeface, copy quality. I have also had similar documents in the past which look very similar. Hope it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 25 November , 2004 Share Posted 25 November , 2004 Did you have any luck finding those 1915 Ypres trench maps? Hi Jonathan. No luck whatsoever! Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DNH Posted 26 November , 2004 Share Posted 26 November , 2004 You could always have a look at the Brigade War Diary or the War Diaries of the battalions of that brigade to see if there is an original preserved as part of the National Archives and compare. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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