Old Tom Posted 19 August , 2015 Share Posted 19 August , 2015 I recently visited a museum at Kotschach- Mauther. That's in Austria a few miles form the Italian border north of the Plocken Pass. What,to me, was a rather strange weapon was labeled as a 'Strum Pistole'. It was in a closed case under glass with various items. Photographs were not allowed and the following is based on my notes on a scrap of paper. Not, I'm afraid, very precise, but I hope sufficient for the weapon to be recognised. The gun was by Viller Persu? and had two 9mm barrels and there was a reference to a bipod which was not present. Each barrel had an upright straight magazine which, I guess, would have held about 25 rounds each. The information displayed claimed a rate of fire of 500 rounds/barrel/minute. I would guess that they were recoil operated. The triggers were not visible clearly, but they, or it, could have been thumb operated when the two, somewhat 'Vickers' like grips were held by the fingers of both hands. The overall length of the item was about 750 mm, the barrels appeared to be joined at the trigger end and at about half length by passing through a roughly circular disc. Old Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockbhoy67 Posted 19 August , 2015 Share Posted 19 August , 2015 Its an italian machine gun Tom ...a Villar-Perosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 19 August , 2015 Share Posted 19 August , 2015 Fired a pistol calibre round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 19 August , 2015 Share Posted 19 August , 2015 Here as some images and a quick write up and here are much more detailed images and a manual etc. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerhunter Posted 20 August , 2015 Share Posted 20 August , 2015 The Villar-Perosa is often cited, incorrectly, as the first sub-machine gun, due to its pistol calibre cartridge. However first "true" sub-machine gun title goes to the Hugo Schmeisser designed Bergmann MP18. The Villar-Perosa was originally designed for aircraft use but was frankly useless and so it was reallocated as ground gun. I cannot see that it would have faired much better in that role. They are fairly rare but several Museums have examples. I actually got to touch the one owned by the RSME Shrivenham a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 20 August , 2015 Share Posted 20 August , 2015 I recall that there was a Villar-Perosa in twin configuration on display at the HBSA gathering at Bisley a few years ago, when Dieter Storz gave a talk on the myth of the machine guns of Mons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Bennitt Posted 20 August , 2015 Share Posted 20 August , 2015 Here is the one in the Vienna military museum I visited a few years ago. Sorry about the glass reflections. Cheers Martin B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 20 August , 2015 Share Posted 20 August , 2015 In the right foreground in this picture, between the Chauchat and the Bergmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Tom Posted 20 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 20 August , 2015 Many thanks to you all. An interesting bit of history. Old Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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