Wendy Macpherson Posted 7 May , 2015 Share Posted 7 May , 2015 Morning all. I require assistance in locating Pear Tree Trench, Armentieres Sector. The New Zealand divisional front was from Pear Tree Trench to the River Lys. June, July 1916. Had a quick look to locate the maps and think Pear Tree will be located on: Trench map: Loos 36 36 NW 2 I have maps of this area but none have named trenches. Will be back after work tonight. Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamRev Posted 7 May , 2015 Share Posted 7 May , 2015 Pear Tree Farm is on map 36 NW 4, which is one map south of the one you mention (36 NW 2). The farm is a little above the large number "16". Not precisely sure which trench is the actual "Pear Tree Trench" though - In 1916 trenches sometimes still had different names, depending on the division - you may have to take an educated guess as to which of the trenches near the farm it is. William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 8 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 8 May , 2015 Pear Tree Farm is on map 36 NW 4, which is one map south of the one you mention (36 NW 2). The farm is a little above the large number "16". Not precisely sure which trench is the actual "Pear Tree Trench" though - In 1916 trenches sometimes still had different names, depending on the division - you may have to take an educated guess as to which of the trenches near the farm it is. William William you are a star, thank you very much for the coordinates. Found Pear Tree Farm. I have scratched up about eight trench maps of 36 NW4 from 1916 to 1917 still no trench names. I will put up a few screen shots in case anyone else is searching for the same area at some time. Best, Wendy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andrew pugh Posted 12 May , 2015 Share Posted 12 May , 2015 Hi Wendy My Great Uncle was in that area on the 8/12/1914 with the 1st Battalion Royal Fusiliers, I will have a look at the diary to see if it names any of the trenches. Regards Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 12 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 12 May , 2015 Hi Wendy My Great Uncle was in that area on the 8/12/1914 with the 1st Battalion Royal Fusiliers, I will have a look at the diary to see if it names any of the trenches. Regards Andy. Thanks Andy that would be wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaforths Posted 13 May , 2015 Share Posted 13 May , 2015 On 18th August 1916, the 51st HD began to arrive at Armentieres. Just picked up the following from a book: 'The troops that we relieved in the Armentieres area were the Australians and New Zealanders...' They (51st HD) were there for about a month so I will check this evening (when I can get onto a computer) to see if there is any mention of Pear Tree trench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaforths Posted 15 May , 2015 Share Posted 15 May , 2015 Unfortunately, I have not been able to locate a reference to Pear Tree nor a map in the diaries I have checked so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 15 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2015 Unfortunately, I have not been able to locate a reference to Pear Tree nor a map in the diaries I have checked so far. Many thanks for taking the time to look for me, I appreciate you help seaforth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted 15 May , 2015 Share Posted 15 May , 2015 Looking in Rats Alley it doesn't show. The nearest using map 36 is Pear Street. 36SW3 Richebourg map ref S 10 a, b John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 16 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2015 Looking in Rats Alley it doesn't show. The nearest using map 36 is Pear Street. 36SW3 Richebourg map ref S 10 a, b John Thanks John, I have found Pear Street with your coordinates. I think It may be to far South as the New Zealand divisional front ran from Pear Tree Trench to River Lys. Pear Street is starting to be around 3-4km's from the river Lys. Would this be to wider front for the New Zealanders to hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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