chickadee2212 Posted 9 November , 2004 Share Posted 9 November , 2004 looking at attachemnt below - would you say that this solider was a member of the Machine Gun Corps? If not what would you say? please help as i'm totally stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnethmont Posted 9 November , 2004 Share Posted 9 November , 2004 He is certainly a member of the MGC from the collar dogs. I changed the image and they become very clear. Also revealed is a wound stripe on his left sleeve with another emblem above it. Can anyone recognise this one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickadee2212 Posted 9 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2004 just to make sure - is the wounded stripe the vertical line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 9 November , 2004 Share Posted 9 November , 2004 I agree it certainly looks like Machine Gun Corp but thought the guns more like Lewis Guns than Vickers, does this date the badge/photo any??? Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Milner Posted 9 November , 2004 Share Posted 9 November , 2004 Could it be the School of Musketry badge? I have just had a look at the Motor Machine Corps badge and its crossed guns look much chunkier than those in the picture. John Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsyeoman Posted 9 November , 2004 Share Posted 9 November , 2004 On balance.... It is incontrovertibly a Machine Gun Corps badge, crossed Vickers, crown above. There were no badges of 'crossed Lewis Guns'. It's not the School of Musketry The balance of evidence indeed suggest that he is indeed Machine Gun Corps. However, collar badges for Ranks were expressly forbidden during the war - so they were not 'general issue' during hostilities. But... there is firm evidence that the 33rd Battalion, MGC - at least - wore these collar badges during the war. The first 'official' wearers of the crossed Vickers collars for Ranks were the Machine Gun Guards, and successively the Guards Machine Gun Regiment. I think he's probably not Guards, as he's wearing a P14 leather belt - not something I'd associate with the Guards, but I could be corrected on that one. The Motor Machine Gun Service - before they were absorbed by the MGC (Motors) did not have Ranks collar badges. But indeed, the guns of the MMGS badge were 'chunkier' - but still Vickers. Looking at the lightened version - the cap badge is MGC. Therefore... mid-to-late war MGC, with a wound stripe, and the 'MG' in a wreath of the qualified machine gunner and atypically wearing collar badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnethmont Posted 9 November , 2004 Share Posted 9 November , 2004 Example of MGC insignia. A total of 170,500 officers and men served in the MGC of which 62,049 became casualties, 12,498 being killed. They well earned the nickname ' The Suicide Club '. Created in time of war the Machine Gun Corps was disbanded in 1922. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 9 November , 2004 Share Posted 9 November , 2004 Jas/Staffs Yup thats erm. Looked longer initially in the photo but are proportional to this badge. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickadee2212 Posted 10 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2004 thanks for the help we think the photo is late 1916 early 1917 because he's sitting with family (i've cropped the picture) i have another picture wih his regiment if that will help more (i'll post later) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 10 November , 2004 Share Posted 10 November , 2004 He is wearing the MG proficiency badge for 'Machine Gun' meaning the Vickers. Rgds Tim D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 10 November , 2004 Share Posted 10 November , 2004 Do you have a name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickadee2212 Posted 10 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2004 his name is John Corlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickadee2212 Posted 10 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2004 here's the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deepathart Posted 11 November , 2004 Share Posted 11 November , 2004 Wow, they would glow in the dark, all those shiny buttons in a neat row. Chickadee, I posted the picture I have of the button ,that appeared similar to you reply, can you please have a look at it and see if it looks the same as yours. It is the last button on the jacket - that is the clearest one. Its under Buttons on this section. Regards Dee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickadee2212 Posted 25 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2004 i've found yet another pic to see if this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 26 November , 2004 Share Posted 26 November , 2004 Definately a Machine Gun Corps man - he's even wearing the MGC shoulder titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 26 November , 2004 Share Posted 26 November , 2004 Interestingly, he may also be wearing the I for infantry under the MGC - note how the MGC titles are placed further from the edge of the epaulette than is usual - although I cant clearly see the I, if it is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPotter Posted 27 November , 2004 Share Posted 27 November , 2004 Looking at the photographers reference bottom right, is it possible that this photo was printed back to front (or whatever the term is for left to right). I can't make out whether his shoulder titles spell MGC correctly or are reversed. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sweeney Posted 27 November , 2004 Share Posted 27 November , 2004 Steve, The photo appears to be correct. SD Jackets buttoned left over right so that orientation is correct. The numbers on the bottom right are very odd. Joe Sweeney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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