Ark Posted 24 February , 2015 Author Share Posted 24 February , 2015 Many thanks Rod will PM the images over to you. Mums the word ! Ark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 30 March , 2015 Share Posted 30 March , 2015 Ark, Any updates from Ebay on this? Our friend has just begun listing another batch of 'ANZAC' cartridge cases, again all 'used at Gallipoli', so remains undaunted. CAVEAT EMPTOR James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 30 March , 2015 Share Posted 30 March , 2015 What bothers me is the fact that you used to be able to buy acid, glass etching kits, Halfords used to sell them, they would do exactly the same to that brass as it did to glass and the font looks a bit modern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eairicbloodaxe Posted 30 March , 2015 Share Posted 30 March , 2015 And you can see where it was masked off to do the etching... Funny how on that one the date codes on the base seem to have "worn off" too... Regards Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 31 March , 2015 Share Posted 31 March , 2015 Funny how on that one the date codes on the base seem to have "worn off" too... I imagine that is because Ark pointed out to this seller that one of the ones he bought was dated 1917, therefore couldn't have been right, so he is now making sure the dates are unreadable! James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchtrotter Posted 31 March , 2015 Share Posted 31 March , 2015 Thought we were not allowed to discuss such topics? TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodB Posted 31 March , 2015 Share Posted 31 March , 2015 It's an interesting question as to when in UK usage Fuze became the correct spelling for the initiation device in a munition. It's the spelling used in the current NATO glossary, but the OED doesn't seem to have caught up (but I may be using an old edition). It's also spelt with a z in Arty Notes No 2 FA Ammo (Jan 1916) and 'Notes On Gunnery' 1918, (that's a hint to users of this site) and everywhere thereafter I don't have anything earlier to hand), so clearly OED is a tad under-informed. I've got MikeB on my "to be educated properly" list as well. Research I did a while back on British ammunition usage circa WWI in response to a Wikipedia flame war (some pedants claimed that a fuze activated ammunition whereas a fuse ignited dynamite sticks) indicated that z was the predominant British spelling, but I found enough s spellings in official and semi-official documents to come to the conclusion that one could not insist that fuze was the "correct/official" spelling for doodads that made shells go bang : both spellings were correct by virtue of common usage by insiders at that time. The important thing was it made the shell go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted 9 April , 2015 Author Share Posted 9 April , 2015 Hi All, Many thanks to those that got in contact with me re the shells/Casings/Ammo, personally via email and on this thread. Yes they are frauds ! I am happy to report that I have received all my money back from ebay. It took a lot of time, effort and stress to do this, back and forth from paypal to ebay back to pay pal then ebay again. I have reported him to the police and gave all the information I know. Sadly yes he is still operating again on ebay, hocking the same old story with the same olds etchings on various items. I would stay clear of anyone selling items claiming to be from the Paul Raymonds Whitehall Theatre Of War. The story has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. Especially. Sam Millins. Operating under: 2010samwilliams & also uk-malone There is also another chap who is selling items claiming to be from the Whitehall Theatre Of War, which I have just noticed the Whitehall section that was on the site has been newly taken down. google: The Curios Of Captain Leader Coincidentally he to is also located in East Sussex near Sam and is selling items reputed to be from the Whitehall Museum. Item: Air Marshal Sir Arthur Coningham, KCB, KBE, DSO, MC, DFC, AFC, RAF. This same exact same item was sold on ebay over a year ago by the same chap who sold me the shells - 2010samwilliams. If they are linked or not I cannot confirm ! Once again many thanks to all those for taking the time to respond. Lets keep our eyes peeled ! Best Ark Ark, Any updates from Ebay on this? Our friend has just begun listing another batch of 'ANZAC' cartridge cases, again all 'used at Gallipoli', so remains undaunted. CAVEAT EMPTOR James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted 9 April , 2015 Author Share Posted 9 April , 2015 New dodgy listing. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-Trench-Art-Anzac-Gallipoli-Collection-Tin-/121602437465?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_nkw%3D121602437465%26_rdc%3D1&nma=true&si=GVqxI7su4PS0GqL6WcxbSR1cRFY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Posted 9 April , 2015 Share Posted 9 April , 2015 As far as I was aware, the genuine trench art shells were always done by tightly packing the shell with sand or earth, and punching the design into the brass with a sharp implement. The very fact that they appear etched should immediately arouse suspicions. It isn't only eBay that sells fraudulent crap. Not so long ago, I e-mailed a dealer who was advertising a fake WW1 bugle priced at £220. Another dealer currently has for sale an SMLE No1 Mk111 at £945. He claims that it is regimentally marked to the 'East Yorkshires.' I sent him an e-mail and informed him that the 'EY' stamps to woodwork and metalwork had an entirely different meaning. The rifle is STILL being offered for sale as a regimentally-marked piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gvinrad Posted 14 July , 2015 Share Posted 14 July , 2015 Gentleman, I have recently purchased a piece of trench art which is made of a cartridge casing, I purchased it from a chap off his stall at an historic vehicle rally for the sum of four pounds. He told me it was 1st world war & was either French or German, from looking at the posts on this forum I believe it to be French. It has the following markings on the base of the cartridge, H. 993L. 17 H 75 DE C again from posts already seen am I correct in believing it dates from 1917 ? Could anyone provide any further information as to who would have made the casing & in particular what the other numbers refer to ? any help would be most appreciated. Gerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peregrinvs Posted 14 July , 2015 Share Posted 14 July , 2015 Sounds like it was made from a French 75mm Model 1897 field gun cartridge case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_mod%C3%A8le_1897 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServiceRumDiluted Posted 14 July , 2015 Share Posted 14 July , 2015 DE C , de campagne, - field gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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