ralphjd Posted 22 January , 2015 Share Posted 22 January , 2015 A friend of mine is attempting to find the "exact" panel reference for Tom Ashworth 17 Northumberland Fusiliers, any assist EDIT ; Forget this he has given me the wrong name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 22 January , 2015 Share Posted 22 January , 2015 would cwgc info not tell them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 22 January , 2015 Share Posted 22 January , 2015 ... the "exact" panel reference Go to the man's entry in the CWGC database and click on "panel list" - for example the first man in the Thiepval register HERE. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 22 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 22 January , 2015 When it is a very large number of casualties CWGC lists all the piers and faces,doesn't discriminate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootrock Posted 23 January , 2015 Share Posted 23 January , 2015 Northumberland Fusiliers are commemorated on Pier 10, Face B Pier 11, Face B Pier 12, Face B Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 23 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2015 As I have said, he has supplied the wrong information but, had it been this man the CWGC information is not sufficient to say which pier he is on, would it be 10,11 or 12 ? a very educated guess for a man names Ashworth would be panel 10 in my opinion , beginning of the alphabet. Ralph. Go to the man's entry in the CWGC database and click on "panel list" - for example the first man in the Thiepval register HERE. Tom Agreed, but is he on 11C or 12a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce Posted 23 January , 2015 Share Posted 23 January , 2015 His rank is also sometimes a help. If a man is named on a couple of panels, then if an officer it is a fair bet that he will be on the first of those, whereas a private named Zog is likely to be on the latter. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 23 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2015 Agreed Bruce, if there are a lot of higher ranks in a particular regiment than a private beginning with the letter A this could "relegate" him to panel two, which does not show on the CWGC details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tulloch-Marshall Posted 23 January , 2015 Share Posted 23 January , 2015 As I have said, he has supplied the wrong information but, had it been this man the CWGC information is not sufficient to say which pier he is on, would it be 10,11 or 12 ? a very educated guess for a man names Ashworth would be panel 10 in my opinion , beginning of the alphabet. Ralph. Agreed, but is he on 11C or 12a Tom Ashworth of the 17th Bn Northd Fus is buried at St Sever Cemetery Extension. If that isn't the correct man then wouldn't it be simplest just to say who is, and also, perhaps, explain what the question is ? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 23 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2015 I did say in the original post to "forget this" I was given the wrong name - IF I ever get the correct information and he is on the Thiepval Memorial then the same question will be asked , what is the exact pier and face he is recorded on. Ralph, (Tried to delete the original post to avoid all this "confusion") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 24 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2015 A case in point raised today under Soldiers Ernest Crosland Pier and Face 14A and 15C , he does not appear in both places so which pier and which face does he appear, the CWGC does not differentiate , this is my point. Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive_hughes Posted 24 January , 2015 Share Posted 24 January , 2015 Not sure if this helps, but the "documentation" now available on the CWGC includes Panel lists for the memorials. Taking Ernest Crosland as an example, there is a (pretty crowded, and not easily legible) Thiepval panel list in the documentation. It is annotated something like "(?O)C14 on the left and says "Face D Blank" to its right. The Memorial plan shows that both 14D and 15D are blank (exterior) faces. So my surmise would be that it represents panel 14A, since 14D would be to its right as viewed (but not 15C, which has the blank face D to its left as viewed). Feel free to say that this is not infallible logic. But if it holds water, there might be similar clues on the CWGC panel list documents for other casualties? Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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