Mat50 Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Please can I ask for advice and information about how to find records of a soldier who recovered the battlefield dead. His name was Robert Evans born 1892 in Llandrillo, Meirioneth. Died february 1953. Son of William and Margaret Evans, Ty Isa, Llandrillo. He survived a bombing but the horse was killed. This is the only information I have . Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelley Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Cannot help you, but I do appreciate what Robert Evans did. He was invaluable to those who fell in The Great War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 It's an unfortunate fact that we can usually find more about the dead of WW1 than those who survived! We can probably locate the family history side of things, but being able to identify which Robert Evans in the Army records (such as may exist) is going to need more work. Do you have ANYTHING of his, letters, WW1 photo(s) hopefully with a cap badge and details of any stripes or other clues on his uniform, medals with an inscription on the rim etc? Local newspaper archives might help identify the Robert Evans you need, failing that, perhaps the CWGC may have records of men that helped the Graves Registration Unit clearing the battlefields of the dead. As shelley says, particularly today, there may be many families who owe the dignity of a named (or at least a Known Unto God) grave to your Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elewis Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 With so little information about his war time service and such a common name I think the forum might struggle to help - hopefully I am wrong as the risks the men took to recover the fallen and wounded were so high that they should be remembered. I found the following from the 1901 and 1911 census records, I expect you know it but its the best I can do for you I am afraid. 1911 censusAddress: Branas Ucha Llandrillo Corwen Registration District: CorwenSub District: Corwen Civil Parish: LlandrilloEllis Ellis H 50 1861 Male Head Married 22 Farmer Llanfachreth, MerionethEllis Dorothy 51 1860 Female Wife Married 22 Llandderfel, MerionethEllis Gwen C 18 1893 Female Daughter Single Farmer's Daughter Working On Farm Corwen, MerionethHughes Mary C 19 1892 Female Servant Single General Servant (Domestic) Llandefel, MerionethEdwards Evan 28 1883 Male Servant Single Farm Labourer Llandrillo, MerionethEvans Robert 19 1892 Male Servant Single Waggoner On Farm Llandrillo, MerionethJones Robert 18 1893 Male Servant Single Waggoner On Farm Llandrillo, MerionethLloyd Robert 53 1858 Male Servant Single Waggoner On Farm Llanfor, Merioneth1901 censusAddress: Ty Isa Registration District: Bryn SaintEvans William 48 1853 Head Cattleman On Farm Llansilen, DenbighshireEvans Margaret 42 1859 Wife Llandderfel, MerionethEdward David 13 1888 Son In Law Llandrillo, MerionethEvans Robert 9 1892 Son Llandrillo, MerionethEvans Henry R 6 1895 Son Llandrillo, MerionethEvans Margaret 5 1896 Daur Llandrillo, MerionethEvans Humhrey 2 1899 Son Llandrillo, Merioneth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat50 Posted 9 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2014 I thought it would be hard to find him, but as there are so many knowledgeable people on the forum it was worth asking. The only info I have is what you found Evan L . One story is he was due leave and on his last mission he was bombed, nobody though he would survive but out of the dust and smoke walked Robert, obviously protected by the horses. This man was a true hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elewis Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Sadly as Kevin said finding out about the dead is easier than those that survived as so many records were lost in WWII. IF you live near Llandrillo it might be worth checking the church and village hall to see if it has a Roll of Honour listing those that fought and survived, as many small villages do, IF you find one with luck it might give more information such as rank and Regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elewis Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 I know it is going off at a tangent, sorry folks, but I found this fascinating (well to me anyway) item about Branas Ucha where Robert Evans was working in 1911 http://www.peoplescollectionwales.co.uk/content/branas-ucha-%E2%80%93-house-history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat50 Posted 9 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Thank you. Some useful information there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat50 Posted 9 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2014 The family later lived at Branas Isaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hywyn Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Robert Evans, Ty isaf, Llandrillo was Pte 17977 in RWF. Enlisted middle November 1914 and went to France with 13th Bn (as part of 38th Div) in Dec 1915. He hasn't turned up on any casualty lists but I haven't got them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hywyn Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Here he is amongst a list of local men serving. Nil further to take things forward. http://cymru1914.org/en/view/newspaper/4008971/4/ART18 Wounded 1917 http://cymru1914.org/en/view/newspaper/4009664/0/ART6 (as it happens the couple of months period which I am lacking wounded lists!) I trust you have knowledge of Gods Language <grin> For those that do not the article contains one sentence about him which says he has been wounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat50 Posted 9 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Hywyn your are a stR, many thanks once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat50 Posted 9 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2014 That should of read you are a star ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elewis Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Hywyn. Very well done on finding him. Campaign Medal Rolls 1914-1919Prime Unit Royal Welsh FusiliersMedal Awarded British War Medal and Victory MedalForename RobertSurname EvansNumber 17977Rank Private.Previous Service 13/R.W. Fus. Pte. 17977Medal Awarded 1914-15 StarDate of Disembarkation 01/12/15Theatre of War 1 (France & Flanders)Remark Demob. 16-2-19 For the heathens out there that do not know "Gods Language" (to quote Hwyn) - The day before word came that Private Robert Evans , Tyisa, was wounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 9 November , 2014 Share Posted 9 November , 2014 (it may be God's language, but it's a devil to learn it!) Back on topic Glad the Pals here were able to find and help so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat50 Posted 9 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2014 Evan L my I enquired where you found the information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Llechwedd Posted 8 February , 2016 Share Posted 8 February , 2016 Robert Evans was my Grandfather, here is a photo of him with his half brother I think. He is on the right. Until I saw this post I did not know that this was what he did during the War. My father told me that Robert was determined that none of his own sons would go to War during WWII, and because they were farmers and some were young enough, he was able to keep all four of them at home. How did you find out that this was what he did Mat50? I have the battalion diaries, but have not sat down and gone through them all. I would be very grateful for any information you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 8 February , 2016 Share Posted 8 February , 2016 LLechwedd Welcome to the forum. Thanks you for the photo Let me help you here, photo right way up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat50 Posted 8 February , 2016 Author Share Posted 8 February , 2016 A fantastic photo. Many thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Llechwedd Posted 8 February , 2016 Share Posted 8 February , 2016 Thank you Corisande, much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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