Tom Morgan Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 One hundred years ago today, at about this time, just before 11.00, Gavrilo Princip fired 'the first shots' of the Great War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 He fired the shots that precipitated the events leading to the Great War. He did not fire the first shots of the Great War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 28 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 28 June , 2014 He fired the shots that precipitated the events leading to the Great War. He did not fire the first shots of the Great War Quite so. That's why I put quotes around 'the first shots' - to indicate that I was speaking figuratively. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneca Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 They may as well have been "the first shots" as, had they never been fired, would there have been a Great War? Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James A Pratt III Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 For more reading on this subject see: A Mad Catastrophe Geoffery Wawro Assassination in Sarajero Alexander Wolff The Assassination of the Archduke Greg King I should point out that 28 June is a Serb holy of holy days commemorating the 1389 battle of Kossevo. Not a good day to stage a visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 For more reading on this subject see: A Mad Catastrophe Geoffery Wawro Assassination in Sarajero Alexander Wolff The Assassination of the Archduke Greg King I should point out that 28 June is a Serb holy of holy days commemorating the 1389 battle of Kossevo. Not a good day to stage a visit. Weren't the Serbs still using the Julian calendar in 1914 ? Their "June 28th" would have occurred a couple of weeks before our Gregorian date wouldn't it ? (Or the revised Julian). I know Bulgaria adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1916, and Russia of course only did so after the October Revolution (which is why the Red Square missile rattling parades took place in November. . . .) Or am I talking through my @rse ? Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James A Pratt III Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 The date of the 1389 battle of Kossevo is 13 June (OS)/28 June (NS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 There you are then . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelS Posted 29 June , 2014 Share Posted 29 June , 2014 They may as well have been "the first shots" as, had they never been fired, would there have been a Great War? Anne From my somewhat limited knowledge of the international political situation at the time, I doubt very much that there wouldn't have been; WW1 seems to have been an event looking for an excuse to happen & the assassination provided it. Doubtless another excuse would have been found. A couple of articles from yesterday's Daily Telegraph (28th June), The lie that started the First World War by Tim Butcher & What sort of a man was Archduke Franz Ferdinand? by Adrian Bridge NigelS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneca Posted 29 June , 2014 Share Posted 29 June , 2014 Nigel, yes I agree the situation at that time was volatile and needed little to trigger a war. As you have already said, another excuse would probably have been found. Good articles from the DT. Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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