r30rvp Posted 13 June , 2014 Share Posted 13 June , 2014 Hello I have just been informed that Hooge crater is closed during August, Does anybody know if its the museum or the crater?? Many thanks Rachel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianExile Posted 13 June , 2014 Share Posted 13 June , 2014 I think the Museum closes for a week in August. I remember going up there last year and I managed to pick that week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r30rvp Posted 13 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2014 that's ok, a few people have mentioned the open air museum around the crater and was worried I wouldn't have time to see everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 13 June , 2014 Share Posted 13 June , 2014 I may well be wrong, but I wasn't aware that there was a crater still there? The cemetery is called Hooge Crater and the museum and cafe across the road are excellent, but the museum is not open air. Am I missing something? BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianExile Posted 13 June , 2014 Share Posted 13 June , 2014 that's ok, a few people have mentioned the open air museum around the crater and was worried I wouldn't have time to see everything Are you sure you don't mean the cratered area next to Hotel Kasteelhof 'T Hooghe? If you are thinking of that museum, you can just walk in any time - there's a donation box by the entrance but it's not a proper museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r30rvp Posted 13 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2014 Yes thats the place, Sorry getting very excited and trying to see as much as i can in the few days i have over there (have to many bits of paper with places on!!!!) cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIFFO Posted 13 June , 2014 Share Posted 13 June , 2014 railway wood just back from hooge heading for ypres op bircross roads,memorial- flooded crater great view of ypres-sanctuary wood hill 62. Biff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jainvince Posted 25 June , 2014 Share Posted 25 June , 2014 If you follow the footpath from next the actual museum at Hooge you walk around the wood on Bellewarde Ridge on the way to RE Grave and then Railway Wood. There are numerous water filled craters in the wood easily seen from the footpath (the wood is private so careful if you nip too far inside it). There craters are marked on Google Maps. Beyond RE Grave (memorial to lost Tunnellers) is Railway Wood with an easily seen crater at the east end. Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r30rvp Posted 26 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 26 June , 2014 thats fantastic thanks Bernard Something else to look out for cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamRev Posted 26 June , 2014 Share Posted 26 June , 2014 Hi Rachel As others have mentioned, the crater at Hooge (actually two or more adjacent craters, and there has been some debate about how much of this is the original 1915 crater) is in the grounds of the hotel next to the museum - you just put a euro into the honesty box and walk in, so it won't be closed. Photo below shows it a week ago when I was there. William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamRev Posted 26 June , 2014 Share Posted 26 June , 2014 And here is one of the water-filled craters in the wood that Bernard mentioned. William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 26 June , 2014 Share Posted 26 June , 2014 One Taken in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r30rvp Posted 27 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 27 June , 2014 WOW thank you at least I now know what to look out for. best make sure I have plenty of euros in my pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 29 June , 2014 Share Posted 29 June , 2014 Hi Rachel As others have mentioned, the crater at Hooge (actually two or more adjacent craters, and there has been some debate about how much of this is the original 1915 crater) is in the grounds of the hotel next to the museum - you just put a euro into the honesty box and walk in, so it won't be closed. Photo below shows it a week ago when I was there. William William, the actual position of the Hooge Crater 1915, I believe the craters you show are early 1916 mining craters from January and April 1916, but happy to be corrected. Given the attack and the direction of the 14th Divisions counter attack it could not be the craters in the old Chateau grounds which was rebuilt on approximately the site of the old stables. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armourersergeant Posted 15 July , 2014 Share Posted 15 July , 2014 Andy, Interesting you have the crater partially over the Museum and cafe. I have it about an 2" up on your map, and to the right of the road. Basically just out of the top of your picture. I have tried to get some info about exact location due to my interest in Cecil Rawling who was killed here in 1917. If you stand in the grounds of the German craters near the road shown above your crater position then there appears to be a area of ground that slopes away as if previously a crater. As i say however I have not got any confirmation of this. What is certain is the craters wrongly indicated in a battleground book and those open to view, whist interesting, I believe to be part of the smaller craters, blown later in the war, as you also state. Has your positioning come from the war diaries of 14th division? Strange to think I have stood where the crater was after wanting to do so, without actually knowing it!! Rgds Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 15 July , 2014 Share Posted 15 July , 2014 Hi, the crater was indeed to the right of the small road regards, Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 15 July , 2014 Share Posted 15 July , 2014 pick attached Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 15 July , 2014 Share Posted 15 July , 2014 From the information obtained locally the small road is not in it's original place. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 17 July , 2014 Share Posted 17 July , 2014 Hooge Crater cemetery today regards, Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 17 July , 2014 Share Posted 17 July , 2014 another crater seen today Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 17 July , 2014 Share Posted 17 July , 2014 the present Hooge Crater that is not the 1915 Crater Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 17 July , 2014 Share Posted 17 July , 2014 From the information obtained locally the small road is not in it's original place. Andy Correct. Below is the location of the wartime road superimposed on a modern NGI map... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 17 July , 2014 Share Posted 17 July , 2014 Approximate location of the wartime road and crater position in accordance with British (1917) 1:10,000 scale and German (1916) 1:5,000 and 1:10,000 scale trench mapping. (This is a conglomeration of both sources... the British show it slightly further to the left, the Germans show it encroaching more to the right of the (modern) road... it also differs in size dependant on the map used. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 17 July , 2014 Share Posted 17 July , 2014 Hi Dave, Thanks, only place it could be if your read the direction and positions of the 8th RB and 7th RB counter attacks later in the day, 14th Div material carefully and personal accounts, I have been arguing the position for years but need it as accurately as possible for future plans that are coming together. Thats the information I got from Ypres archives in that the road moved about 250 yards from its pre war position. Just need to pin point the machine gun position now which the Germans in their accounts say was very skilfully used!!! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathrynWhite Posted 19 July , 2014 Share Posted 19 July , 2014 Thanks for the heads up on this; typically it's closed the week I'm going! (12th-19th August). Will definitely check out the crater itself though, I didn't know there was one still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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