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RGA Grandfather


Langdon

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Hello,

I'm trying to find out about my grandfather's service - he was in the RGA, but his MIC is virtually blank - no theatre of war or date of entry - and refers (I think erroneously) to the RFA . He is first mentioned in the War Lists in late 1918 linked to Munitions/Labour... Is there anything in these photos that may help to locate him? The TOW photo is from Roffey Camp in Horsham.

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Can you repost the picture and give his name and service number?

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Herbert Eyre Dalrymple Townsend reg. no. on MIC (RFA) 157915

HerbertRGATOW.pdf

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The photograph is of an Officer, and the medal index card tells you that he was No.157915 in the Royal Field Artillery, before being commissioned in the Royal Field Artillery on 12.10.1916

The theatre of war and date of entry are not given, so he did not go overseas until 1.1.1916 at the earliest, but he is not credited with a British War Medal or Victory Medal either.

This means that he did not go overseas at all, or perhaps he may have a separate card as an officer? I tend to think that he didn't go overseas at all.

His service record as an officer may be available at Kew.

BillyH.

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I understand that an officer had to apply for his medals - so he could have been overseas but didn't apply for medals

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Thanks Billy and Russ. I discovered from TNA that his file is at the MOD and applied for it (with payment) a few days ago. TNA said he was in the RGA not RFA - and the cap badges are very similar, aren't they? I've also found a 1916 letter at TNA from his brother (a Lieutenant in the RFA) which says that Herbert is "away in the RGA".

My hunch is he didn't serve abroad, unlike his two brothers, and I'm curious as to why this elder brother didn't.....

Regards,

Mike

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Thanks Billy and Russ. I discovered from TNA that his file is at the MOD and applied for it (with payment) a few days ago. TNA said he was in the RGA not RFA - and the cap badges are very similar, aren't they? I've also found a 1916 letter at TNA from his brother (a Lieutenant in the RFA) which says that Herbert is "away in the RGA".

My hunch is he didn't serve abroad, unlike his two brothers, and I'm curious as to why this elder brother didn't.....

Regards,

Mike

The cap badges are the same. I believe that Horsham was an RGA Depot and trained signallers.

Tony P

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Thanks Billy and Russ. I discovered from TNA that his file is at the MOD and applied for it (with payment) a few days ago. TNA said he was in the RGA not RFA - and the cap badges are very similar, aren't they? I've also found a 1916 letter at TNA from his brother (a Lieutenant in the RFA) which says that Herbert is "away in the RGA".

My hunch is he didn't serve abroad, unlike his two brothers, and I'm curious as to why this elder brother didn't.....

Regards,

Mike

If he did not go overseas then he might well have been employed on coastal defence, which was one of the specialisations of the RGA.

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Or he may have gone to an overseas garrison which saw no active service, such as Bermuda or Ceylon.

Ron

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Or he may have gone to an overseas garrison which saw no active service, such as Bermuda or Ceylon.

Ron

Where again he would have been part of the coastal defences.

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My uncle served on a coastal defence company of the RGA at Gibralter. He was awarded the BWM. So clearly some overseas units did qualify for the BWM but not the Victory medal. I am sure that other overseas units qualified eg Malta, not sure about Bermuda but highly likely.

Tony P

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As a RGA Supplementary Officer in the RGA Special Reserve [as May 1917 Army List shows] it is not unlikely he served only in UK.. checking a few men in RGA [sR] Army List commissioned at the same time, their medal cards show men who went overseas.. and some others who did not T L Poulton [153342], for example, commissioned the week before [5/10/16] also has no medals, Stanley Rutherford Gibson, commissioned same day, went to France 3/11/1916 ...

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Thank you battiscombe for the May 1917 info. and all for the possible explanations. I await his MOD file which may shine a light.

Mike

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Battiscombe, any idea why he might have been a "supplementary officer" in the 'special reserve"? These are terms I don't really know about although I think I know about the SR. Is this a voluntary status or could this be because of orders or incapicity/illness - or even choice/influence..?

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