Simon_Fielding Posted 12 April , 2014 Share Posted 12 April , 2014 Hello all I've been chewing this one over and I think it's time to put it 'out there'. I bought this cup in an antiques fair near Glasgow on holiday last year. The inscription reads: WON BY SYDNEY GUNTON HALL WHILE WITH TERRITORIALS DURING GREAT WAR KILLED IN ACTION MARCH 21ST 1918 There have been a couple of similar cups on auction sites: different shapes but the same inscription: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-UNUSUAL-24TH-LONDON-REGIMENT-CASUALTY-ITEM-/190909995696 I've naturally researched Sydney but have hit the predictable problems: No 1911 census No listing on any war memorial No newspaper listing or photo This is what I have: Sydney Gunton Hall Born 4 Nov1896 99 Huddleston Road Islington Matthew Edwin Hall 1863 – 1900 Bertha Alice Gunton 1868 – 1944 1900 358 Essex Road Islington 1901 52 High Street Hornsey Siblings Florence Hall 1891 – , Alfred Edwin Hall 1892 – , Grace Alys Hall 1899 – 1982 (Grace appears to be in some sort of institution in 1911 - HALL, Grace Alice Institution: London Orphan Asylum, METROPOLITAN DISTRICT IMBECILE ASYLUM HALL, Grace Alice Inmate Single F 11 1900 School London Islington But marries Leslie Oliver Garner: 6 Jun 1923 Age: 23 Barnes, St Mary, Surrey, England Death 1982 25 Jan Age: 82 Kensington and Chelsea, Greater London, England) Mother Bertha visiting friend at 38 Barons Court Road Fulham - marital Status: Widowed, "Occupation: MANAGERESS FOR WINE COMPANY" There's no sign that I can find of Alfred Edwin or Sydney Gunton in 1911 census - at school? Abroad with mother's wine trade links ? By 1914 SDGW gives Sydney's residence as Chiswick and enlistment Kennington presumably 71 New Street, Kennington Park Road Serves with 24th London Regt. (The Queens) service number 720923 To France 30th June 1915 Killed in action first day of Operation Michael METZ-EN-COUTURE COMMUNAL CEMETERY BRITISH EXTENSION, Pas de Calais, France HALL, Private, S G, 720923, 24th Bn., London Regiment. 21 March 1918. Age 21. Son of Bertha A. Hall, of 13, Elm Grove Rd., Barnes, London, and the late Mr. M. E. Hall. Grave Ref. IV. D. 14. MIC confirms mother's address. Am I missing anything? Any London experts help with memorials or newspapers? Part of me feels sad the cups are seperated, but this one is well looked after and now has a bit of a stoty behind it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 12 April , 2014 Share Posted 12 April , 2014 Any idea what the cup was awarded for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 12 April , 2014 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2014 Neither mine nor either of the others say... Shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 12 April , 2014 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2014 Cup here - quite plain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 12 April , 2014 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2014 And the pen*ion records give mother's address as 'Hawley', Weymouth Avenue South Ealing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriaty Posted 12 April , 2014 Share Posted 12 April , 2014 The memorial in Kennington Park, London, to the 24th Battalion, The London Regiment was unveiled in July 1924. I have a list of the soldiers commemorated and included is "Hall SG". 71 New Street where Sydney enlisted in the 24th Bn is close by. I have come across a couple of other soldiers who must have enlisted around the same time: 720900 Private Percy Barratt, kia 5 April 1918 720916 Private William John Stripp, dow 2 May 1917 Moriaty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 12 April , 2014 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2014 That's great Moriarty - thanks. Glad he's commemorated somewhere in his home city! Will follow up Barratt and Stripp. Best Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 12 April , 2014 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2014 http://www.ww1cemeteries.com/british_cemeteries_memorials/london_reg_kennington_mem.htm Sounds like the memorial has seen some wear and tear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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