madman Posted 7 April , 2014 Share Posted 7 April , 2014 Good evening gents I've been thinking for a while now about buying a ww1 British service revolver which would have to be a deac as I live in england , sorry to ask such a broad question but is there anything abvious I should be aware of with regards to fake ect now I've had a search through the forum and found some useful stuff I don't suppose someone could perhaps suggest a source for such a piece Regards thanks for your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 7 April , 2014 Share Posted 7 April , 2014 Good evening gents I've been thinking for a while now about buying a ww1 British service revolver which would have to be a deac as I live in england , sorry to ask such a broad question but is there anything abvious I should be aware of with regards to fake ect now I've had a search through the forum and found some useful stuff I don't suppose someone could perhaps suggest a source for such a piece Regards thanks for your time I am a firearms collector, mainly Webleys, however, I only collect live-firing firearms so I know nothing at all about deactivated items. I had a look on line, and found this link which lists those dealers selling deactivated weapons, with comments on each dealer, and remember, we know nothing about the person providing those comments, so you may have to take them with a ' pinch of salt ', that said, it does give you a list of the deactivated weapons dealers which may be useful to you. Regards, LF http://www.mydeactivatedguns.co.uk/shops.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchtrotter Posted 7 April , 2014 Share Posted 7 April , 2014 A broad q indeed. What type of revolver? Webly / Colt? What level of deac as early deacs are worth more. Arundal Arms are good as is JC Militaria amongst others. Both however are top prices. Fakes won't be an issue but refurbs / mismatches etc will catch one out. If you are buying usual rules apply.....get the best in your price range. Check the deac sites and perhaps attend militaria fairs first. Where do you live? In June there is a fair at the National Motorcycle Museum Birmingham and lots of gun dealers attend with many deacs. TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 8 April , 2014 Author Share Posted 8 April , 2014 Thanks for the replies gents and as I say I know nothing about historical firearms live or deac, and I don't have intentions of becoming a collector I would just like one example that would have perhaps seen service so manufacturer isn't really an issue nor is condition to an extent don't get me wrong I would like a nice one price to pay isn't really what limit I have in general more along the lines of if I like the item enough to pay whatever price . and I live in oswaldtwistle which is next door to Accrington in Lancashire Cheers again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobL Posted 8 April , 2014 Share Posted 8 April , 2014 I'd highly recommend getting to a fair and choosing one you like there, I've made the mistake of buying a deactivated weapon online before and not being happy with it, a lot of money to change your mind on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 8 April , 2014 Share Posted 8 April , 2014 I am a firearms collector, mainly Webleys, however, I only collect live-firing firearms How is this possible in the UK today given the laws on handguns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 8 April , 2014 Share Posted 8 April , 2014 How is this possible in the UK today given the laws on handguns? I have homes both in the U.K. and the U.S.A., and after the introduction of the punitive British firearms laws, I moved my complete firearm collection to the U.S.A., where I can now enjoy them and fire them whenever I wish. Attached is a small part of my Collection, all in excellent live-firing condition. Regards, LF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 8 April , 2014 Share Posted 8 April , 2014 3 LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted 8 April , 2014 Author Share Posted 8 April , 2014 LF Thanks for sharing thata awesome stuff I am envious of this sample of your collection and the fact you can own them in there original functioning condition great stuff Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 8 April , 2014 Share Posted 8 April , 2014 LF Thanks for sharing thata awesome stuff I am envious of this sample of your collection and the fact you can own them in there original functioning condition great stuff Regards Pleased to hear. It is certainly interesting to deal with the various constructions of each, and each firearm has its own unique handling features. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1418 Posted 8 April , 2014 Share Posted 8 April , 2014 How is this possible in the UK today given the laws on handguns? Hi Its a lot more difficult than just filling in the correct forms with your local police as a specialist section 5 collector if my memory serves me correctly, most are for persons who have historic specialist firearms collection prior to the change in the law, however different police forces apply different criteria and you are not allowed to shoot them. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 10 April , 2014 Share Posted 10 April , 2014 Not true. Under Section 7.3 you may fire certain classes of heritage weapons (made before 1919) but they must be kept at an approved secure centre. You make keep these weapons in live condition at home under Section 7.1 but you may not fire these. Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1418 Posted 10 April , 2014 Share Posted 10 April , 2014 your knowledge is better than mine Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerhunter Posted 14 April , 2014 Share Posted 14 April , 2014 A quick tutorial. Most live rim fire and centre fire pistols and revolvers are now banned from licensing in the UK. They were placed into Section 5 (Prohibited Weapon) by the two 1997 Firearms Acts. (Thanks to Major and Blair!) However bona fide collectors may still own certain pistols and revolvers under an excemption to that Act - Section 7. Section7(1) allows some pistols and revolvers to be kept at home by bona fide collectors but without ammuntion and may not be fired. Section7(3) mandates that other pistols and revolvers, for which ammunitiion is readily available (.eg.9mm Para, .45acp, etc) although may NOT be kept at home, they may be kept by bona fide at a "designated site" and may be fired. Section 7(3) also allows pistols and revolvers that qualify for Section 7(1) to be kept under Section 7(3) at a designated site and fired. Pistol and revolver ammuntion for Section 7 may also be kept at home but NOT if one has any pistols and revolvers of that calibre at home. BTW, not all pistols and revolvers were put into Section 8 in 1997 as my collection of flare pistols held under Section 1 evidences. Plus pistols and revolvers that qualify for Section 58 - that is to say antiques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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