cooky Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 I have recently watched the Kirk Douglas movie 'Paths of Glory' in which the order to assault a German strongpoint is refused after several disasterous attempts earlier the same day.Is this based on a true story and where exactly was the strongpoint in real life ? Cooky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Jacket Collector Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 It was based on a novel by Humphrey Cobb who fought as a private with the Canadians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exuser1 Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 Check out the movie on Wickie , i know its not always to be trusted but, the film will give the orginal book 1935 , the play ,and the orginal incedent ,there is a link to the general involved in the excution of the 4 soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spconnolly007 Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 where exactly was the strongpoint in real life ? Cooky. In Souain apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exuser1 Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 As above March 1915 as the 10th ,just north of the village,attack by 336eme 21st company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 More here Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 This is worth a look http://uk.rendezvousenfrance.com/discover/memorial-executed-soldiers-vingre Maxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0ebus Posted 27 January , 2014 Share Posted 27 January , 2014 I had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with actor Joe Turkel some years ago, who was in the film. Been a fan of his work for quite a long time, even before he was in The Shining. -Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky Posted 27 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 27 January , 2014 Many thank's for all you replies, Cooky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedley Malloch Posted 28 January , 2014 Share Posted 28 January , 2014 Banned in France until the 1970s - it showed the Army in a bad light. Only one of two WW1 movies to make The Guardian's Top 10 war movie list. See: http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/oct/28/top-10-war-movies A Kubrick masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgranger Posted 28 January , 2014 Share Posted 28 January , 2014 I've always thought a lot of the film. I'm particularly affected by the almost matter of fact bravery displayed by Colonle Dax as he takes the men over the top, ensuring that he is on the parapet, urging them forward, precisely on zero hour. And yet. And yet..General Mireau orders his artillery to shell his own positions, an order that is refused. However, the only artillery we see in action is the French, and during the attack, there is no real sign that the Anthill is being shelled at all. All the fire seems to be falling on the attackers, so it appears that the French artillery is already shelling its own men. Or am I missing the point about keeping close to the barrage, at the risk of taking casualties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 28 January , 2014 Share Posted 28 January , 2014 Well, you live and learn. I've seen Paths of Glory innumerable times, and I have it on DVD, but I didn't know until I read the IMDB resumé that it was filmed in Bavaria. As Hedley says, a Kubrick masterpiece .... and made before he was even 30. Kirk Douglas is still with us at the grand old age of 97, but sadly I think he is probably too frail for a gala screening of the film in the centenary year of the events it depicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedley Malloch Posted 28 January , 2014 Share Posted 28 January , 2014 Paul, If you read accounts of how the movie was made, funding was a problem throughout. Douglas ended up putting his own cash into it. Lack of money limited what Kubrick could do in terms of special effects - hence lots of shots in trenches, chateaux and the stagey nature of some of the sets. He used hand-held cameras for the battle scenes, which ended up adding to the 'realism'. Having said that the technical quality of what he did do is superb, particularly the tracking shots in the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedley Malloch Posted 29 April , 2014 Share Posted 29 April , 2014 Apparently 'Paths of Glory' is to be re-released this year. There was a piece in yesterday's 'The Guardian'. http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/28/stanley-kubrick-paths-of-glory Some of the comments are very interesting especially on Kubrick's relationship with Douglas, and one or two from people who worked with Kubrick. I thought the comments on the quality of the battle scenes were proof that you don't need pots of money and digital technology to create high quality action. In fact simpler technologies such as hand-held cameras and black and white film are often far more effective. BBC please note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 29 April , 2014 Share Posted 29 April , 2014 Well, you live and learn. I've seen Paths of Glory innumerable times, and I have it on DVD, but I didn't know until I read the IMDB resumé that it was filmed in Bavaria. As Hedley says, a Kubrick masterpiece .... Most of the extras were Bavarian Police officers. This is the real incident believed to have inspired the book and film http://www.executedtoday.com/2008/03/17/1915-french-corporals-maupas-lefoulon-girard-lechat/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 29 April , 2014 Share Posted 29 April , 2014 Apparently 'Paths of Glory' is to be re-released this year. There was a piece in yesterday's 'The Guardian'. I'm not sure what 're-released' actually means, as Paths of Glory was already readily available on DVD, and the Guardian piece doesn't mention any kind of technical enhancement or reprocessing of the 'print'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsyeoman Posted 29 April , 2014 Share Posted 29 April , 2014 I'm not sure what 're-released' actually means, as Paths of Glory was already readily available on DVD, and the Guardian piece doesn't mention any kind of technical enhancement or reprocessing of the 'print'. A new, maybe not restored, print is being shown at the National Film Theatre from May 2-16. I think it's the BFI's token nod to the centenary. As much as it may be historically questionable, I'd rather they'd bring back Joseph Losey's "King and Country", now hardly seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglynn Posted 29 April , 2014 Share Posted 29 April , 2014 Great film I have it on dvd, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedley Malloch Posted 29 April , 2014 Share Posted 29 April , 2014 I'm not sure what 're-released' actually means ... Quite. Maybe it means a screening in cinemas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 29 April , 2014 Share Posted 29 April , 2014 Try this http://www.cndp.fr/crdp-reims/memoire/lieux/1GM_CA/monuments/suippes_caporaux_souain.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 7 December , 2014 Share Posted 7 December , 2014 It's being shown on ITV4 this afternoon at 1605 and on Saturday the 13th at 100. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 And it's on BBC2 at 2250 on Saturday, April 27. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 21 April , 2019 Share Posted 21 April , 2019 So how comes Dax doesn't have a moustache? Here’s Spears on General D’Urbal: The Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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