sawdoc34 Posted 25 January , 2014 Share Posted 25 January , 2014 Hello chaps, have been offered a P1907 bayonet but it has some very strange markings on the ricasso, has anyone got an idea of what they are? They have me stumped Cheers, Aleck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 25 January , 2014 Share Posted 25 January , 2014 It looks like the monogram of the Duke of Edinburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscott Posted 25 January , 2014 Share Posted 25 January , 2014 Aleck - very interesting, are there any other markings on the bayonet that could help put the monogram in context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawdoc34 Posted 25 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2014 Only got 2 pics from him so far, this is the other but cant figure the connection with South African Air Force, will post more pics when I get them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 25 January , 2014 Share Posted 25 January , 2014 As it's an overstamp, it will be from a country that adopted the smle, I would try Siam or Burma etc for the monogram. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbox Posted 25 January , 2014 Share Posted 25 January , 2014 The crown happens to be the correct style for an English Earl's crown (five "balls" on spikes, with low cross shapes inbetween, oval and rectangular lozenges below). You's have to identify the monogram. I think they are two letter "S", in heraldic script. My guess would be a school OTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 25 January , 2014 Share Posted 25 January , 2014 Only got 2 pics from him so far, this is the other but cant figure the connection with South African Air Force, will post more pics when I get them S.A.A.F. is a known mark for the South African Air Force, photo attached of another bayonet pommel marked as such. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 25 January , 2014 Share Posted 25 January , 2014 have been offered a P1907 bayonet but it has some very strange markings on the ricasso, has anyone got an idea of what they are? Aleck Aleck, The South African Air Force was not formed until 1st February, 1920, so the pommel mark is not earlier than that formation date. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 30 January , 2014 Share Posted 30 January , 2014 The crown happens to be the correct style for an English Earl's crown (five "balls" on spikes, with low cross shapes inbetween, oval and rectangular lozenges below). You's have to identify the monogram. I think they are two letter "S", in heraldic script. My guess would be a school OTC. I wouldn't have thought that a Earls crown would have been replaced the Monarch's crown on a blade, a bit presumptuous ?, khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawdoc34 Posted 30 January , 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January , 2014 LF, I think I may have phrased it wrong mate, I meant that I couldnt figure the connection with the ricasso markings to to SAAF markings on the pommel Thanks for all the input chaps but still not figured the monogram out, either ultra rare or some ****** did them for a laff to stump poor sods like me Cheers, Aleck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 30 January , 2014 Share Posted 30 January , 2014 It is definitely an Earls crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted 31 January , 2014 Share Posted 31 January , 2014 Its definitely an Earl's coronet with its mixture of pearls and strawberry leaves. If it is assumed that it did go to an OTC, then presumably it went after its SAAF Service, which may mean an OTC in South Africa. Two earls, the Earls of Athlone and Clarendon served as Governors General in South Africa in the 1920s and 1930s. Clarendon did have a school in Natal named after him but it was a Girls School. I had a quick google through South African private schools but couldn't find other schools with a connection but they might have disappeared or rebadged over the years. Whatever its origins it was an expensive alteration. They must have had a special punch made up to do the job on maybe a couple of hundred bayonets. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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