Bernard_Lewis Posted 24 November , 2013 Share Posted 24 November , 2013 Writing up fairly brief accounts of the following Swansea airmen: Allan Harold Bates - KIA 13 April 1917; shot down by the Red Baron. John Lawrence Hughes - KIA 1 October 1917; came down while returning from a mission. Thomas Llewelyn Davies - KIA (accident) 16 September 1918. I have seen some mention of 2 LtBates on here. I wonder if anyone has any detailed accounts of the incidents that caused the deaths, please? I have photos of Bates and Hughes but not Davies. An TNA download of a 'operation book' for 25 Squadron covered the Great War in 2 lines and then went on in much more detail up to 1940! I have complained to the NA! Thanks for any help. Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quemerford Posted 25 November , 2013 Share Posted 25 November , 2013 There are a whole bunch of 25 Sqn WWI files in AIR 1 for the period 1915 to 1918. They include Record books, Officers next of kin particulars, Mosaic photograph, Combats in the air, Recommendations, honours and awards. I suspect these are the files you need. In my experience the AIR 27 files don't contain much WWI data. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aradgick Posted 25 November , 2013 Share Posted 25 November , 2013 There is a Service Record at TNA for Bates, A H reference AIR 76/27/124 Andrewr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted 25 November , 2013 Share Posted 25 November , 2013 Bernard There's an account of 2Lt Bates' end in 'Under the Guns of the Red Baron' by Franks, Giblin and McCreery. Lt J L Hughes was killed along with his pilot, 2Lt C O Rayner, in DH4 A7405 of No 25 Sqn on 2 October 1917. The aeroplane crashed and was wrecked near Burbure, probably shot down, but by whom is not clear. Major T L Davies was killed, together with his pilot, Capt W E Dawson, while flying RE8 D4746 of the Artillery and Infantry Co-Operation School on 16 September 1918. I hope this is useful. Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quemerford Posted 25 November , 2013 Share Posted 25 November , 2013 In case it's of use: AIR 1/690/21/20/25 History of 25 Squadron 01Jan15 to 31Dec36 AIR 27/305/1 25 Sqn ORB Summary of Events 01Sep15 to 28Feb40 AIR 27/305 No. 25 Sqn ORB 01Sep15 to 31Dec42 AIR 1/138/15/40/277 RFC Station, Montrose - formation of 25 Squadron 31Aug15 to 08Nov15 AIR 1/1221/204/5/2634 25 Sqn Combat reports 01Feb16 to 30Nov18 AIR 1/1382/204/24/19 25 Sqn Officers next of kin particulars 01Aug15 to 31Mar18 AIR 1/1379/204/24/8 25 Sqn Officers next of kin particulars etc 01Nov16 to 30Nov16 AIR 1/1379/204/24/9 25 Sqn Record book 01/04/1917 to 30/04/1917 AIR 1/1383/204/24/20 25 Sqn Mosaic photograph 01/07/1917 to 30/09/1917 AIR 1/1379/204/24/4 25 Sqn Record book 01/06/1916 to 30/06/1916 AIR 1/1379/204/24/2 25 Sqn Record book 01/12/1916 to 31/12/1916 AIR 1/1382/204/24/18 25 Sqn Combats in the air 01/01/1918 to 30/11/1918 AIR 1/1381/204/24/11 25 Sqn Record book 01/08/1917 to 31/08/1917 AIR 1/1382/204/24/17 25 Sqn Combats in the air 01/01/1917 to 31/12/1917 AIR 1/1379/204/24/3 25 Sqn Record book 01/05/1916 to 31/05/1916 AIR 1/1379/204/24/7 25 Sqn Record book 01/10/1916 to 31/10/1916 AIR 1/1381/204/24/15 25 Sqn Daily routine orders 01/10/1918 to 30/06/1919 AIR 1/1381/204/24/13 25 Sqn Recommendations, honours and awards 01/01/1917 to 30/09/1918 AIR 1/1379/204/24/10 25 Sqn Daily routine orders. 01/10/1915 to 31/01/1916 AIR 1/1379/204/24/5 25 Sqn Record book 01/07/1916 to 31/07/1916 AIR 1/1382/204/24/16 25 Sqn Combats in the air 01/03/1916 to 31/12/1916 AIR 1/1381/204/24/12 25 Sqn Record book 01/10/1917 to 31/10/1917 AIR 1/1379/204/24/1 25 Sqn Record book 01/04/1916 to 30/04/1916 AIR 1/1379/204/24/6 25 Sqn Record book 01/09/1916 to 30/09/1916 AIR 1/1531/204/76/3 9 Wing RFC History data: 25 and 49 Squadrons 01/11/1917 to 30/11/1918 AIR 1/1291/204/11/86 HQ Adm Wing RFC Formation and moves 6 and 25 Sqns 01Jul15 to 30Sep17 AIR 1/955/204/5/1032 Bomb dropping reports (includes 25 Sqn) 01/05/1918 to 30/06/1918 Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard_Lewis Posted 25 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2013 Thanks for the info, all. Gareth - I'll be in touch via the good offices of our mutual pal! Duncan - Well! When I searched for 25 Squadron I only got 3 results! I shall have a look though if they are not digitised I'll be stuck... Andrew - thanks for that, I'll check it out. Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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