Stoppage Drill Posted 7 November , 2013 Share Posted 7 November , 2013 The events which started Martin on his path to conversion and sainthood occurred in Amiens. Amongst several patronages, he is that of soldiers. The church/cathedral/church of Ypres is named for him. St Martin's Day is 11th November. Each fact in isolation is unremarkable, but taken together the Great War coincidence quotient is noteworthy, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 7 November , 2013 Share Posted 7 November , 2013 Did you get a Dictionary of Saints for your birthday? Having asked that, I must say I find the facts you outline quite remarkable. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 7 November , 2013 Share Posted 7 November , 2013 I see that Martin was a cavalryman stationed in Amiens, at one stage in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 7 November , 2013 Share Posted 7 November , 2013 Is he not also the Saint who has 11 November as his day in Belgium (well Ypres). I believe that is why the day is a holiday in Belgium (well the Flemish bit anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMarsdin Posted 7 November , 2013 Share Posted 7 November , 2013 Hi Steve, it is his feast day but 11 November is a public holiday in all Belgium because it is Armistice Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 8 November , 2013 Share Posted 8 November , 2013 Thanks for that. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 8 November , 2013 Share Posted 8 November , 2013 St. Martin of Tours - Isn't he the Patron Saint of battlefield guides, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 8 November , 2013 Share Posted 8 November , 2013 Close the door on the way out, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 9 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2013 Eastleigh Island, Martin of Tours Guides . . . . 'ere, listen, it's not rubbish, lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnumbellum Posted 9 November , 2013 Share Posted 9 November , 2013 The events which started Martin on his path to conversion and sainthood occurred in Amiens. Amongst several patronages, he is that of soldiers. The church/cathedral/church of Ypres is named for him. St Martin's Day is 11th November. Each fact in isolation is unremarkable, but taken together the Great War coincidence quotient is noteworthy, to say the least. Although it is true that Amiens was the place of Martin's conversion to Christianity, to cite that without further comment is to ignore the fact at Worms he carried his conversion to its logical conclusion by announcing (having been conscripted at the tender age of 15), "I am a soldier of Christ; I cannot fight", and according to one account, he was committed to prison, effectively as a conscientious objector. Is it to be presumed that soldiers who claim Martin as a patron saint are acknowledging that their duty is also to become conscientious objectors. Certainly, that is why Martinmas (St Martin's Day) is regularly observed in peace calendars. It is also, perhaps, worth noting that from 1916 Dick Sheppard, as Vicar of St Martin-in-the-Fields, named after St Martin, began special prayers each Wednesday morning in support of conscientious objectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 9 November , 2013 Share Posted 9 November , 2013 Gone off him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 10 November , 2013 Share Posted 10 November , 2013 Prayers to St Martin for help used to begin "Give me, blessed Martin" which in Latin is "da mihi, beate Martine". It is the origin of the expression "All my eye and Betty Martin." Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 10 November , 2013 Share Posted 10 November , 2013 Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs. You learn things in the most unexpected places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 11 November , 2013 Share Posted 11 November , 2013 St Martin Island is a holiday resort in the Caribbean* and Tours of Martin are available also * There's another one off the Indian coast as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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