Kathleen6690 Posted 3 November , 2013 Share Posted 3 November , 2013 Hello, I am extremely new at all this and wanted some advice; currently reading a medal cardfor a Frank Summerscale, it notes in remarks 'Dis to Comm', and in correspondence states 'Extracted from B W + V' Could anyone guide me to a good explanantion of Medal Cards, or explain it to me..? I did look at the http://1914-1918.net/research/index.php/find-your-soldier/campaign-medal-records/how-to-interpret-a-campaign-medal-index-card/ and gathered he was discharged... but not sure.. Thanks. Kathleen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 3 November , 2013 Share Posted 3 November , 2013 he was discharged to take up a commission, and apparently has an officers file at the National Archives under this reference WO 339/87327 The extracted from is a reference to the entry on the medal rolls for the West Yorks. (also held at the National Archives). I'm sure you realise that this chap was clearly one of the original Leeds Pals. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 3 November , 2013 Share Posted 3 November , 2013 Here is his commission in the London Gazette: http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30299/supplements/9838/ Other announcements: http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30398/supplements/12306/ http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/31324/supplements/5609/ Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 3 November , 2013 Share Posted 3 November , 2013 In one of the appendices to the Leeds Pals book by Laurie Milner it rather looks as if three Summerscale's joined up together. 15/860 Pte Frank commissioned into the Yorkshire Tegiment 15/861 Pte Norman presumed dead 1/7/1916 15/862 Private Stanley presumed dead1/7/1916 There are photographs of Norman and Stanley in the book on page 167. It confirms that they were brothers. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 3 November , 2013 Share Posted 3 November , 2013 Leeds Absent Voters shows: Address code: 5068LN; Name: SUMMERSCALE ALEC; Number: DM2/151462; Rank: PTE; Unit: 113 SGE BTY R G A (ASC MT) Address code: 5069LN; Name: SUMMERSCALE ARTHUR; Rank: LIEUT; Unit: A S C Address code: 5070LN; Name: SUMMERSCALE FRANK; Unit: YORKS R The address codes used to be reference-able back to streets, but I don't think the key PDFs are online any more. Consecutive codes tend to refer to one address. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 3 November , 2013 Share Posted 3 November , 2013 That fits with the census returns. There were five sons in the family. Two brothers were KIA by the time the AV list was compiled.. The other three all apparently served. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen6690 Posted 4 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November , 2013 Wow, yes, this is a lot of information. I knew of the Leeds Pals part and more specifically about their younger brother during WW2. I did discover they joined together and two died in the Somme it would seem, I am currently trying to find out what happened to Frank, later life etc. Researching 'Brothers' who died/ survived/were wounde in WWI. Specifically looking at the Summerscales, Deans, and Pickles of Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen6690 Posted 4 November , 2013 Author Share Posted 4 November , 2013 That fits with the census returns. There were five sons in the family. Two brothers were KIA by the time the AV list was compiled.. The other three all apparently served. Keith I found four, Norman Arthur, Stanley James, Frank and Alec. Do you know where I could find the fifth...? Kathleen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 4 November , 2013 Share Posted 4 November , 2013 Grovel I must have counted the nephew Ronald in my hasty look at the census returns. Four is correct. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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