Khaki Posted 21 October , 2013 Share Posted 21 October , 2013 Just purchased on line a P1903 bayonet (British) pommel marked thus, 1.GG.51, am I correct in interpreting that as 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards, (rack) number 51 or is there something else? Its won't arrive for about a week, but the condition is described as , as issued, appears to me as VG+ from a bunch of photos that were e-mailed to me. I will try and post a photo when it arrives. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 21 October , 2013 Share Posted 21 October , 2013 khaki, Nice purchase, pommel markings are always very interesting, especially from a British premier regiment such as the Grenadier Guards. G.G. being their post 1881 regimental mark. I look forward to seeing the photographs. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 22 October , 2013 Author Share Posted 22 October , 2013 Thanks LF, I am looking forward to receiving the 1903, I understand that there are also other deleted markings, and I am hoping that they are still readable. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectorsguide Posted 22 October , 2013 Share Posted 22 October , 2013 I think the R /number is the rifle number which would correspond with the number on the butt marker disc on a rifle. As I understand it pre 1914, the armourer would fit the bayonet to the rifle ensuring a comfortable fit,as not all bayonets would fit every rifle snugly for want of a better word. best w, Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdt Posted 28 October , 2013 Share Posted 28 October , 2013 Hi, I have also just obtained a 1903 marked to the Grenadier Guards. It is dated 12 '03, with '08, '09 and '10 reissue marks. The marking is 2GG 46, with quite big G's. In addition, the same side of the pommel has stamped sideways: 15RD 42. I believe that this is 15th Regimental District. What is the significance of this mark? Cheers, Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 30 October , 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October , 2013 Hello all, 1903 arrived today, dated 01/06 reissued 07, 08, 09 (EFD) Regt, marked L.N.L (Loyal North Lancashire??) lined out, also 1 GG 51 (1st Batt., Grenadier Guards??) it has other numbers below LNL that are also lined out but are probably rack numbers. condition is VG +, good grips and no rust. Will try to get a photo when time permits. regards khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 30 October , 2013 Share Posted 30 October , 2013 Hello all, Regt, marked L.N.L (Loyal North Lancashire??) regards khaki khaki, A link to some information on the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. Regards, LF http://www.1914-1918.net/loyals.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 30 October , 2013 Share Posted 30 October , 2013 khaki, Loyal North Lancashire Regiment's cap badge, probably at the time of your 1903 bayonet. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 30 October , 2013 Author Share Posted 30 October , 2013 Hello LF, Thanks for the link and the photo of the badge, I hope that I have interpreted the LNL correctly the first letter (L) has a small 'strike' horizontal almost at and on what would be the lower 'arm' of the (L), I cannot see a serif on the end and it is possible that it may be a battalion number eg 1.N.L but I could not think of a regiment abbreviated to N.L. regards khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 30 October , 2013 Share Posted 30 October , 2013 Hello LF, Thanks for the link and the photo of the badge, I hope that I have interpreted the LNL correctly the first letter (L) has a small 'strike' horizontal almost at and on what would be the lower 'arm' of the (L), I cannot see a serif on the end and it is possible that it may be a battalion number eg 1.N.L but I could not think of a regiment abbreviated to N.L. regards khaki Khaki, Without seeing the actual marks, it is hard to say, there was definitely a Loyal North Lancashire Regiment, however, I have still not as yet found a confirmation for ' LNL ' being their mark as it would appear on say, a bayonet pommel, I am still looking. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippingsteel Posted 30 October , 2013 Share Posted 30 October , 2013 The standard abbreviation used for that regiment was simply N.L. however the first mark could well be the battalion number as you say. Nice find. Cheers, S>S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 30 October , 2013 Share Posted 30 October , 2013 khaki, I knew I had seen a Loyal North Lancashire ( LNL ) marked pommel before, just could not remember exactly where, and here it is - 4th Loyal North Lancashire P1888 bayonet pommel - see P1888 Bayonet - this Forum Thread - May 18, 2013. Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 31 October , 2013 Author Share Posted 31 October , 2013 Well done LF excellent detective work! & S>S thanks for the 'tip' on the regimental abbreviations. Howard & Tony thank you for your contributions, interesting reading. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 20 November , 2015 Author Share Posted 20 November , 2015 Noticed that I never posted any photographs of the 1903. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 20 November , 2015 Share Posted 20 November , 2015 I knew I had seen a Loyal North Lancashire ( LNL ) marked pommel before, just could not remember exactly where, and here it is - 4th Loyal North Lancashire P1888 bayonet pommel ... One more up and I'd be after that - my grandfather joined the 5 LNL 05 06 1915.. But ended up via the Herefordshire Regt. with the Tank Corps by 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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