Landsturm Posted 22 September , 2004 Share Posted 22 September , 2004 After le képi French soldiers were introduced also other forms of off-duty headgear. Now, what`s the difference between calot and bonnet de police? Also... Adrian helmet started to arrive in 1915, but did this happen during the summer? June/July/August? By September, troops already had them for Champagne-offensive. What troops, where and when received them first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Dunlop Posted 23 September , 2004 Share Posted 23 September , 2004 After le képi French soldiers were introduced also other forms of off-duty headgear. Now, what`s the difference between calot and bonnet de police? A friend of mine, Marc Patiou, provided the following comments: "None, both words describe the same headgear, tracing its origin from an 17th century "fatigue" cap. The calot had been continuously issued to cavalrymen (and may be artillerists or engineers too but I am not sure) whereas infantry switched to kepi as everytime headgear around 1850. Reasons behind calot reintroduction are obscure AFAIC, but it seems it was indeed contemporary with the new steel helmet distribution." Also... Adrian helmet started to arrive in 1915, but did this happen during the summer? June/July/August? By September, troops already had them for Champagne-offensive. What troops, where and when received them first? "Yes, late august and Early September, on time for Champagne offensives Front line troops where issued firstly (approx.2 million men) but the numbers may have had been huge as new helmets had been stockpilled for some time. Still, I am no expert, but numbers up 2 millions for the first batch seem reasonnable (approx. 3,5 millions Frenchmen were under uniform at any given time during WW1) Such quick issuing may look odd, although actually, once stocks has been made, distribution among troops can be rather easy, notably since there is nearly no training needed with a helmet " Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsturm Posted 24 September , 2004 Author Share Posted 24 September , 2004 Thanks for help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosters Posted 24 September , 2004 Share Posted 24 September , 2004 Talking of French helmets, what period would this be? http://www.qcmilitaria.com/fdrags.htm Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Dunlop Posted 24 September , 2004 Share Posted 24 September , 2004 Thanks for help! I shall pass this on to Marc. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chip Minx Posted 25 September , 2004 Share Posted 25 September , 2004 Steve, The pictures on your link are of a dragoon helmet. This type of helmet was being worn in 1914, but was gradually replaced by the Adrian helmet. Regards, Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosters Posted 25 September , 2004 Share Posted 25 September , 2004 Thanks Chip, From the size of the hole it was a big bullet? You have to wonder which way he was going at the time. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chip Minx Posted 25 September , 2004 Share Posted 25 September , 2004 Steve, The entry hole is in the back and the exit in the front. Looks like he was retreating. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsturm Posted 25 September , 2004 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2004 Yea, to me looks pretty OUCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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