leigh Posted 21 September , 2004 Share Posted 21 September , 2004 Hi, Does anyone have any maps or diaries that may help to locate this cemeteries position during the war? It was moved into Woburn Abbey Cemetery at the end of the war. Here is the discription of its location from CWGC. King's Claire, Cuinchy, On the road to Givenchy, were 17 soldiers from the United Kingdom were buried in 1915. Regards Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 3 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2004 Just thought I would bring this back to the top No one have a link to Kings Claire? They must have named it that for a reason. Regards Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 16 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Well there is a Kings trench in Givenchy. I also know that the KRRC were in the area from time to time. I am still looking for the Claire connection though. Anyone....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Leigh No luck I'm afraid, but I have found that on CWGC it actually states :- "KING's CLAIRE, CUINCHY, on the road to Givenchy, where 20 soldiers from the United Kingdom were buried in 1915". I think your number of 17 soldiers comes from Silent Cities. Not sure why there's a discrepancy. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 16 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Thats just 3 more reasons to locate it steve Thanks for the heads up. L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Leigh I think your number of 17 soldiers comes from Silent Cities. Not sure why there's a discrepancy. Steve Whereabouts in Silent Cities? I couldn`t find it! Phil B PS Any possible connection with Kingsclere, Hants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 16 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Phil B, Look under Woburn Abbey and its listed there. Regards Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Leigh, this is all I get on page 143. Do you have a different version? Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 16 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2004 I was looking at the Silent cities web site Phil, You could be on to something with the Kingsclere thing . L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 We could be on to something here. Check out http://homepage.ntlworld.com/suelight/aawebb.html and look at the entry for 5/6/1918. SN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Sounds like King`s Claire might be part of Kingsclere Trench then? Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Yes, that's what I was thinking. I noticed that Leigh's signature makes reference to a chap killed in the Cuinchy brickstacks, and the web page for Samuel Webb also makes reference to the Brickstacks, although the dates are different. Leigh - is this why you're trying to trace the cemetery? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 16 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Stephen, Yup thats why. I am researching the area and the cemeteries, linking burials to dates and units etc. Thats great info and I am guesing that it might be the link. King's claire could very easily be a rename of Kingsclere. I will look into this and try and use it to locate the cemetery. Hopefully if I dig out some diaries for linked regiments I might be able to find reference to the the cemetery and its location. The Brickstacks are south of the canal, the lock on it! and I am hoping then I can find kingsclere on some trench maps, I will go over them again. Thanks Phil and Stephen, I knew me persistance would pay off Regards leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinglma Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Leigh Its just north of the church at Cuinchy and south of the lock- not easy to spot and not on the 1915 map. i have located it on the 1916 map. Given notice and an instruction booklet I could probably post a section of map All the best Mike S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinglma Posted 16 November , 2004 Share Posted 16 November , 2004 Leigh You've probably found it by now but if not:- Mike S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 17 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 17 November , 2004 Cheers or that Mike, Been away the last day. Just looked at my map fragments and none are high enough res to show it so thanks for the map. Seeing as Kingsclere is not actualy along a trench line I am guessing that it might actually just show the location of the cemetry or a place they named Kingsclere. Cheers L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh Posted 18 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2004 There is the Kingsclere south of Newbury in Berkshire (same one as I think Phil was refering to). Seeing as the Royal Berks Regt are credited with the creation of Woburn Abbey Cemetery (where kingsclere cem was moved to) I am probably safe in thinking that Kingsclere cemetery was started also by the RBR. L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinglma Posted 18 November , 2004 Share Posted 18 November , 2004 Leigh Sounds like a sensible assumption - what do others think/ Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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