Willywombat Posted 7 June , 2013 Share Posted 7 June , 2013 Could anyone please assist with i/d of some of the more obscure markings on a 13pdr shell case? The markings are as follows (with my attempt at translation, which may be wrong!): Shell case itself: CF Cordite (Full charge) / 16 Date? (if so, why no month given?) (broad arrow) Government mark N 13Pdr II Designation of calibre and mark I II. 3 28 S (oval logo)C Maker's monogram? Primer: No1 II Designation of primer type and mark 3/16 Date? Drum shaped logo Maker's monogram? I'd most like to know why the "/16" on the case has no month given (if it is, indeed, a date stamp). Who the makers are. And what the "N" directly beneath the broad arrow indicates. Any help much appreciated! Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywombat Posted 7 June , 2013 Author Share Posted 7 June , 2013 Having done a little more research myself, it seems that the "N" and the broad arrow are both parts of the same stamp and are an inspector's mark. Still looking for identification of the makers, and the reason no month appears to be given on the "/16" stamp, though, if anyone can help with those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 7 June , 2013 Share Posted 7 June , 2013 Your "S (oval) C" is in fact "G C" for the Gramophone Company (that became EMI) and the oval is a representation of a gramophone record with a needle on it. I cannot make out the drum mark on the primer but it should have "KN" inside for the Kings Norton Metals Company, Birmingham. I suggest the "28 3" is the 28th March that goes with the "/16" year stamp. This would match with the primer being dated March 1916 as well. The "Broad Arrow N" is normally a Royal Navy mark but that seems odd on a 13 Pr. Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywombat Posted 7 June , 2013 Author Share Posted 7 June , 2013 Thanks, Tony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisnation Posted 8 June , 2013 Share Posted 8 June , 2013 Tony, I did close ups of the marks you mention and you are right. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 8 June , 2013 Share Posted 8 June , 2013 They are both fairly well known logos. Cheers TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywombat Posted 8 June , 2013 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2013 So...... a 13 pdr with possibly Naval markings (the broad arrow with "N" beneath) ...... Any possible link to the 13pdrs used in the tanks? I believe I'm right in saying the 13 pdrs fitted to the tanks originated from the Admiralty? Would an initial supply of ammo have come from the Admiralty as well, so could it be a tank round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 8 June , 2013 Share Posted 8 June , 2013 No, the guns fitted to the tanks were 6 Prs., not 13 Prs. Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywombat Posted 8 June , 2013 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2013 Ah. Yes. Good point, well made. Still, what's 7lbs between friends, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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