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Broad Arrow Stamps On Whistles


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I am currently writing an article on Trench Wistles and had a few questions about the Broad Arrow commonly found on many of the WW1 whistles.

Has anyone ever seen a broad Arrow on the Hudson & Co Birmingham Thunderer whistle? I have only seen them with a date stamp. Was the date stamp placed on them for military purposes or was it a general use whistle that just had a date stamp.

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I thought this Glasgow whistle was quite interesting. It has the broad arrow, but then a number one under it. Anyone know what the 1 represents?

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Lastly I have seen quite a few german bakelite whistles. Were these used in WW1 or were they WW2 whistles?

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The arrow = Government Property.

Regards

John

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Hi,

Could the '1' on your 1917 dated whistle be a part stamped 'I' for Indian Army issue? I also believe that bakelite whistles were only used by the the Whermacht in WW2. Horn whistles may be earlier.

regards

Mark

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OK, I only saw an indian one with the I above the broad Arrow. I thought it looked more like a 1.

Any pictures of Australian or candian whistles?

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OK, I only saw an indian one with the I above the broad Arrow. I thought it looked more like a 1.

Any pictures of Australian or candian whistles?

I think it is a '1', not an 'I'. Compare it to the two '1's in '1917'. If it were an 'I' it would have a cap extending equally both sides. The fact that the bottom foot is more deeply stamped on the right defeats the idea of an unevenly-applied 'I'.

Regards,

MikB

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Yes it does look like a one- but of the Great War dated whistles I have seen with an arrow placed like that, they have tended to have an I for India under it. Never seen a 2,3,4, etc placed there or any other letter than I- but open to correction. Regards, Paul.

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What about a trench whistle that has the arrow mark but has a “U” stamped over it? Does anyone know it’s meaning? 
 

thank you 

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Hi, 20221016_133419.jpg.9002545a382e87f0bd0e660878de2105.jpg20221016_133427.jpg.6c4a0385e78409d399416f87eff8f8e9.jpgHi, AntiqueOutings, I own one of these whistles. However I dont think the number on the side "1904" is the date because according to J.Hudson website it wasn't made then. Mine clearly has an arrow with a number 1 underneath the arrow. Their website says the arrow is for police force. Any info on this whistle would be appreciated especially its date. It also has 22 stamped underneath the mouth piece. . 

 

 

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On 16/10/2022 at 17:38, PhilB said:

That’s not the Hudson website Arthur. Where does it say it wasn’t made in 1904?

Thank you , Yes I had got the information of the Wikipedia link. I went on the date because the info said Hudson were not at the address stamped on the whistle at that time. Can any one please confirm the stamped number is the actual date 1904. Cheers.

 

On 16/10/2022 at 18:35, Dave66 said:

This site may help Arthur…..http://www.whistleshop.co.uk/escdated.html

Dave

Thank you Dave I will have a look.

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That type of whistle (escargot - Thunderer) was issued to Royal Artillery sergeants, whereas the tubular type was the Infantry pattern whistle.

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Good evening
Here is my only whistle :

J.HUDSON & Co

BIRMINGHAM

1915

PATENT 5727.08

1915 /I\

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michel

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6 hours ago, Arthur Plews said:

Thank you , Yes I had got the information of the Wikipedia link. I went on the date because the info said Hudson were not at the address stamped on the whistle at that time. Can any one please confirm the stamped number is the actual date 1904. Cheers.

 

Thank you Dave I will have a look.

Evening Arthur.

Hudson were at Barr street from 1885, 131 first, then 13, and ending up at 244…their history is on the link I posted. I would agree with Phils previous comment, your whistle is certainly 1904 Indian issue.

Dave.

 

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I don’t have much information on escargots and I’ve not seen much printed.  I’d assume that the lack of a street number means it could be any Barr St period but that the date is quite definite.

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42 minutes ago, battle of loos said:

Good evening
Here is my only whistle :

J.HUDSON & Co

BIRMINGHAM

1915

PATENT 5727.08

1915 /I\

DSC_0008.JPG.4ca64aaaaea2933c9128b1745eaa1aa5.JPGDSC_0010.JPG.5eb0379e6bda1dab541aa4489163dd52.JPGDSC_0011.JPG.7252e1f23556f49542c1a903edafde34.JPG

michel

That is an ‘infantry whistle’ Michel.  It was still being issued, unchanged (including the leather ‘fob’) in the 1970s and 80s.  Possibly even now, but I don’t know the current status.

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Here’s another that came my way today, a boer war artillery whistle.

Dave.

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