celiatoo Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Can anyone help me with this cap badge please. the photo has been located in the family but we have no idea who it is of. We thought the best start would be to identify the regiment. The photo was taken in Shropshire but the man might have come from Birkenhead in Cheshire. Any help would be appreiciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hastings Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Hi Celiatoo Can you please attach the photo cheers JH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celiatoo Posted 22 December , 2012 Author Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Hello Sorry about that I thought I had attached it - must have been a bit of early 'Christmas Cheer' getting to me lolol Celia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Looks like Royal Artillery to me. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 I think it might be King Edwards Horse (first as opposed to second). Can you post the rest of the photo so as to improve overall context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celiatoo Posted 22 December , 2012 Author Share Posted 22 December , 2012 I have managed to wipe the original photo from my puter while making the cloe up but i'll have another go at scanning it. However I think the King Edwards Horse is probably the nearest one can anyone tell me anything about that regiment - it's a new one to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celiatoo Posted 22 December , 2012 Author Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Here is the full photo as requested - thanks for your help and interest Celia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester837 Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 I'm not sure about King Edwards Horse. In the image, the crown seems to be clearly raised above the main body of the badge where as the attached KEH badge the crown seems incorporated into the main body. Also, there appears to be a motto scroll at the bottom. I'm with Bigjohn, looks like RA to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 It's RA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celiatoo Posted 22 December , 2012 Author Share Posted 22 December , 2012 well thanks - a hrse regiment doesn't sound right for the guy in question being bought up in Birkenhead but he was an animal lover and had a small holding with lots of animals on it and later on a pet shop ! However, the RA seems more appropriate so thanks and the Seaon's Greetings to you all and thanks for the help. Celia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Definitely RA, either RFA, RGA, etc - just a well curved badge, bent to fit the shape of the hat better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 well thanks - a hrse regiment doesn't sound right for the guy in question being bought up in Birkenhead Celia Oddly, enlistment to cavarly units was probably commoner with city-dwellers than with countrymen. Countrymen knew what a fag it was to look after horses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbrydon Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Not that I think the badge is Kings Edwards Horse but there was a sqadron of that regiment based in Liverpool in 1914,their headquarters where I think in the city centre near School Lane. P.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asanewt Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Just for the novice. Can someone say whether what appears to be a frame below the crown is an illusion or part of a Royal Artillery badge other than the common form. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 Just for the novice. Can someone say whether what appears to be a frame below the crown is an illusion or part of a Royal Artillery badge other than the common form. Thanks. I think that it is just an illusion and infact it is an R.A. badge which has been bent somewhat to suit his rather 'relaxed' style cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester837 Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 I think that due to the low definition of the photo, the upper scroll above the wheel appears to blend into top of the wheel, which makes the top look considerably thicker then you think it should and not a wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hastings Posted 22 December , 2012 Share Posted 22 December , 2012 I've experimented with an old brass RA capbadge I had for my No.2 Headdress and bent it around as shown in the photo, and although the photo has distorted it a bit for our viewing, it is the same badge (heaven help them when the Battery Sergeant Major caught up with them!!! ) Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 23 December , 2012 Share Posted 23 December , 2012 Can you blow up all the hat badges and post them? Could it be RHA? I don't think they are wide enough for RFA/RA and don't see a lion atop the crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 23 December , 2012 Share Posted 23 December , 2012 RHA would wear the same badge as RFA & RGA, surely, during WW1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 23 December , 2012 Share Posted 23 December , 2012 Generally speaking I believe, but they also had this one. I think we need a closer look at the other two badges: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester837 Posted 23 December , 2012 Share Posted 23 December , 2012 Whilst I see where you're coming from Blackblue, in the photo the bottom motto scroll is higher in the centre whereas on the RHA badge, the scroll is lower in the centre (RA is a W as opposed to the RHA U shape if you will). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celiatoo Posted 23 December , 2012 Author Share Posted 23 December , 2012 My apologies for the delay in replying but I have been busy today with the Christmas cooking ! However I will endeavour to scan the other 2 badges tommorrow - thanks for your interest. Celia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 23 December , 2012 Share Posted 23 December , 2012 Generally speaking I believe, but they also had this one. I think we need a closer look at the other two badges: The RHA did not have their own cap badge until after WW2 BB, and even then only for the beret, which is what stimulated the adoption of that insignia. In WW1, all branches of the RA (RFA, RHA, RGA) wore the standard, 'field gun' cap badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hywyn Posted 23 December , 2012 Share Posted 23 December , 2012 Do you have the name/address from Birkenhead? If so, I might be able to help. Hywyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 23 December , 2012 Share Posted 23 December , 2012 The RHA did not have their own cap badge until after WW2 BB, and even then only for the beret, which is what stimulated the adoption of that insignia. In WW1, all branches of the RA (RFA, RHA, RGA) wore the standard, 'field gun' cap badge. I didn't think they issued GV versions post WW2? Not in widespread use as I said and 'believed' to be worn on certain types of headdress under 'regimental arrangements' according to Gaylor. I may be wrong, but don't think the badges are RA and can't find anything else that is a match. The larger badge posted also looks different to the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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