pagius Posted 14 December , 2015 Share Posted 14 December , 2015 Thanks for the info , Mark. Have you posted your grandfather's telling of the escape along the ditch elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 15 December , 2015 Share Posted 15 December , 2015 Thanks for the info , Mark. Have you posted your grandfather's telling of the escape along the ditch elsewhere? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagius Posted 17 December , 2015 Share Posted 17 December , 2015 No I see that http://www.hut-six.co.uk/GreatWar/KRRC/King'sRoyalRifleCorps.html lists everyone in the KRRC but is there a breakdown by battalion anywhere (in particular the 12th KRRC) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 17 December , 2015 Share Posted 17 December , 2015 I see that http://www.hut-six.co.uk/GreatWar/KRRC/King'sRoyalRifleCorps.html lists everyone in the KRRC but is there a breakdown by battalion anywhere (in particular the 12th KRRC) ? Hard copies of SDGW are listed by battalion. Most County Record Offices have sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 17 December , 2015 Share Posted 17 December , 2015 Here's an approx breakdown of KRRC fatalities by battalion. It is approximate due to anomalies from attachments to other battalions, temporary transfers etc., but it gives a good general idea of the fatalities of each battalion. Other researchers should note this data is approximate only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagius Posted 17 December , 2015 Share Posted 17 December , 2015 Thanks Mark. I'm really trying to find anyone of the other 29 ORs captured with William Dedman on the 19/02/16 since I can't find his ICRC record and one of his mates would probably have followed the same path to Giessen then Soltau camps. So I'm really after survivors rather than SDGW ie all who were with 12th Battn KRRC. So rather than find a record card for everyone listed on http://www.hut-six.co.uk/GreatWar/KRRC/King%27sRoyalRifleCorps.html I was wondering if there was a quicker way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 18 December , 2015 Share Posted 18 December , 2015 (edited) Thanks Mark. I'm really trying to find anyone of the other 29 ORs captured with William Dedman on the 19/02/16 since I can't find his ICRC record and one of his mates would probably have followed the same path to Giessen then Soltau camps. So I'm really after survivors rather than SDGW ie all who were with 12th Battn KRRC. So rather than find a record card for everyone listed on http://www.hut-six.co.uk/GreatWar/KRRC/King%27sRoyalRifleCorps.html I was wondering if there was a quicker way! Geoff's data ONLY concerns the Fallen, [Edit - see 1 below] which is why I assumed that's what you were after. It's basically a better way into the CWGC database. It does NOT list "everyone in the KRRC". Battalion is listed in the British War and Victory medal roll. You can build a 12/KRRC nominal roll from that. However it will not be quick. Unfortunately good research rarely is quick and generally involves much B, S & T! EDIT: 1 I'm wrong here! Geoff's webpage that you've linked to is of course his front end onto the NA MIC index! not his more famous 'Geoff's Search Engine' for the CWGC database. It still isn't "everyone in the KRRC" though: it omits those who enlisted into the 60th, but never went overseas, or were transferred before embarking. Edited 19 December , 2015 by MBrockway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 19 December , 2015 Share Posted 19 December , 2015 Peter, If you're after information on L/Sjt William George DEDMAN, R/570 rather than Lt Pratt, I can add the following ... Lance-Serjeant William George DEDMAN / DEADMAN, R/570, 'D' Coy, 12/KRRCSurname spelt 'Deadman' on NA MIC IndexBorn: 19 Mar 1895, Dorking, SurreyResidence: West Horsley, Surrey22 Jul 1915 - embarked in France as a Lance Corporalbefore Feb 1916 - promoted to substantive rank of Corporal, then later to Lance-Serjeant19 Feb 1916 - captured E of BOESINGHE15 Apr 1916 - listed as POW at Giessen05 Nov 1917 - listed as POW at Hameln, formerly at Soltau23 Jul 1918 - listed as transferred from Hameln to Aachen in The Netherlands for internment I've listed some other 12/KRRC men who may have been captured on 19 Feb 1916 in your POW topic (12th KRRC - 31 captured north of Ypres). You will probably find it useful to check to see if any of them have service records extant. I do not have Ancestry access at the moment. HTH Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagius Posted 19 December , 2015 Share Posted 19 December , 2015 Thanks again. I have ancestry so let me know if there's anything you'd like me to find for you on there. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 19 December , 2015 Share Posted 19 December , 2015 Both Geoffs Search Engine and CWGC let you select the Battalion, not just the Regiment. Geoffs WAS excellent, but is no longer being updated so there will be variance between CWGC and GSE (but not always in CWGC favour) so you can use both and cross check, especially if you sort the CWGC data into either alphabetical, date, cemetery or whatever split you desire, then download into an Excel sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 22 December , 2015 Share Posted 22 December , 2015 Red Cross POW details added to the other topic here: Dedman/Deadman's ICRC data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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