Chris_Baker Posted 25 October , 2012 Share Posted 25 October , 2012 The man shown is known to have served with the 23rd (Works) Battalion of the King's (Liverpool Regiment) before being transferred to the Labour Corps ... but what is his badge? Monmouthshire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 25 October , 2012 Share Posted 25 October , 2012 Wings, tail, protruding front foot, looks like Monmouthshire Regiment to me, Chris... James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 25 October , 2012 Share Posted 25 October , 2012 2nd Battalion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 25 October , 2012 Share Posted 25 October , 2012 I do agree it looks to be the 2nd battalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 25 October , 2012 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2012 Thank you. Now to figure this one out ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 25 October , 2012 Share Posted 25 October , 2012 Camouflage School? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Gibson Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 Definitely Monmouthshire Regiment but impossible to tell battalion from the cap badge as they all wore the same. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 Yes only the officers seem to have worn different badges for different battalions. The men all wore the standardised Welsh Dragon badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 Certainly looks to be Mons regiment. Some argue that the 1st battalion wore a different badge to the 2nd battalion but I think most do not agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 Chris, I have a number of men of the 9th King's Liverpool Regt on my database who transferred to the Monmouthshire Regt. They seem to have in common that they were all wounded in 1915. It seems that almost half of these men were subsequently posted to other units. Most were given Monmouthshire TF numbers in the series 227*** The only specific date of transfer to the Monmouths that I have is 23/11/16. I appreciate this could be a red herring but I thought it worth throwing in for consideration. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 If you run dry on the Monmouthshires' (which is the badge I believe it to be) you might just try the Brecknockshire Battalions of the SWB. Their Rugby badge was identical to the Mnths (I have a collection of this for 1919 but not the 1918 team that won the Calcutta Cup - unfortunately) in that it had no scroll underneath. Off the wall idea, but if you're stuck, you're stuck. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 If you run dry on the Monmouthshires' (which is the badge I believe it to be) you might just try the Brecknockshire Battalions of the SWB. Their Rugby badge was identical to the Mnths (I have a collection of this for 1919 but not the 1918 team that won the Calcutta Cup - unfortunately) in that it had no scroll underneath. Off the wall idea, but if you're stuck, you're stuck. Tim I seem to recall that the Brecknockshire battalion badge had a quite distinctive title scroll beneath the dragon on field, that is clearly absent from the OP's photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 I seem to recall that the Brecknockshire battalion badge had a quite distinctive title scroll beneath the dragon on field, that is clearly absent from the OP's photo. Full agreement Frogsmile. I was making comment about their Rugby Badge (somewhere, someday a book about forces sporting insignia is begging) where the scroll is absent. I did say it was 'off the wall' and was only intended as a viable suggestion should Chris' investigations run dry. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 Full agreement Frogsmile. I was making comment about their Rugby Badge (somewhere, someday a book about forces sporting insignia is begging) where the scroll is absent. I did say it was 'off the wall' and was only intended as a viable suggestion should Chris' investigations run dry. Tim I really am not trying to be obtuse Tim, but I don't understand what a 'rugby badge' has to do with the initial poster's inquiry. Have I missed a change of tack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 At risk of repeating what others have observed, to my eyes this can only be the Monmouthshire Regiment due to the lack of a scroll. The only other long shot contenders are the Brecknockshire Bn of the SWB and the Montgomeryshire Yeomanry badges which both had distinctive scrolls. On the OP picture it is clear that there is no scroll as the badge is fixed over the top of the chinstrap. MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulianB Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 As far as I know, ORs of the 1st Bn had a badge in WM, the 2nd Bn in GM - so, yes, difficult to tell in a B&W phoptograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 I really am not trying to be obtuse Tim, but I don't understand what a 'rugby badge' has to do with the initial poster's inquiry. Have I missed a change of tack? Not obtuse at all.. I was making the point that in the event of Chris hitting a dead end with the Monmouths (which I clearly stated I that think the cap badge is) then I've photographs of the Brecknocks Rugby patch/badge that is without the scroll. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 9 May , 2013 Share Posted 9 May , 2013 Perhaps some images will get more firmly to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B Posted 10 May , 2013 Share Posted 10 May , 2013 Here is my Mons cap badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw63 Posted 10 May , 2013 Share Posted 10 May , 2013 In the uncropped version of the photo are there other men in uniform? Could it perhaps be that a mate or relative in the Monmouths swapped caps with him for this photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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