Don Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Hello All. I would be grateful if anybody could identify the markings and cap badge of the soldiers in the photos. I think I can make out one .Two machine guns crossed on the cap. Regards and thank you Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 I was going to say Machine Gun Corps but he is holding a riding crop. Cavalry?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 18 June , 2012 Admin Share Posted 18 June , 2012 2 wound stripes in one photo. Definitely looks like MGC to me Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 18 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Thank you both, I did wonder about the riding crop. The wound stripes,,I have a newspaper notice of one of my relatives. Joseph Cavanagh 9632 wounded 5th June 1915 2nd Batt Royal Irish Regiment.I think this is the chap in the photo Gerry I'm puzzed about the riding crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Was it not likely that a photographer would have one, and suggest that his subjects hold it to help them pose? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 The Machine Gun Club a.k.a "The Suicide Club". Perhaps an elite mounted unit of this Corps:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 18 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Thank you Keith. that seems logical to me ..re the riding crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchtrotter Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Various branches of MGC...infantry and cavalry. Also possible that he was with their transport section? TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 He seems to be wearing riding breeches too, from the fullness of the cloth on his left thigh, and I think I can just make out the buff lining inside the right thigh. Anybody agree ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Could he be GMGR ? One of the Household Cavalry converted battalions ? He's certainly a smart lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Just had second thoughts - yes looks like riding breeches, so the crop would fit. I missed them first time. keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8HANTS Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 Yep I think I can see riding breeches, but in a time when every Battalion had horse drawn transport, why not a MGC donkey walloper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 17th Lancers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 18 June , 2012 Share Posted 18 June , 2012 He seems to be wearing riding breeches too, from the fullness of the cloth on his left thigh, and I think I can just make out the buff lining inside the right thigh. Anybody agree ? Not that his thighs were the first thing I was looking at, ahem . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 19 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 19 June , 2012 Hello All, Yes there are riding breeches in both photographs. Mounted machine gun corps? was there such a unit and when did they evolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 19 June , 2012 Share Posted 19 June , 2012 Some of the Guards Machine Gun Regiments were formed from Household Cavalry. That badge in the photo has a bulbousness which might match the Garter device in the centre of the GMGR badge, distinguishing it from the MGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 19 June , 2012 Share Posted 19 June , 2012 Definitely MGC in my opinion and perhaps a member of the Cavalry branch of that Corps, which was formed to support the cavalry formations and often equipped with the Hotchkiss Light Machine Gun, although they also had the Vickers. They were identified by a shoulder title MGC with a separate C above, as well as the usual bandolier, breeches, spurs and riding whip of a man on mounted duty. See: http://www.vickersma...units-mgc-c.htm And: http://www.machinegu...uk/history.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchtrotter Posted 19 June , 2012 Share Posted 19 June , 2012 No its MGC! TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 19 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 19 June , 2012 Thanks to everyone so far I enclose a later photo of the same Man .He looks a little bit disheveled ,probaly because he has been in action and not as smart as his first photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 19 June , 2012 Share Posted 19 June , 2012 Thanks to everyone so far I enclose a later photo of the same Man .He looks a little bit disheveled ,probaly because he has been in action and not as smart as his first photo The photo shows a better image of his MGC cap badge and his wearing of a bandolier confirms his mounted role. The MIC looks as if it states that at one point he was a part of the MMG - 'Motor Machine Gun' section of the MGC, but I cannot quite read what its says after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 21 June , 2012 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2012 Many thanks for the info Frogsmile Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw63 Posted 5 July , 2012 Share Posted 5 July , 2012 You're probably going to think I'm an idiot for suggesting this but I've just had a look at the second uniformed photo in cvanagh2 (4).pdf (I know it's not best quality) - could he possibly have a wooden right hand? Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 5 July , 2012 Share Posted 5 July , 2012 You're probably going to think I'm an idiot for suggesting this but I've just had a look at the second uniformed photo in cvanagh2 (4).pdf (I know it's not best quality) - could he possibly have a wooden right hand? Simon No, I don't think so. It is just the way the fingers of his left hand are folded and the knuckles protruding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog Posted 7 July , 2012 Share Posted 7 July , 2012 Re, post 16- as far as I know The Household Cavalry kept their own cap badges and did not use the GMGR cap badge- which has only turned up in pictures post 11-11-1918. Regards, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 24 July , 2012 Author Share Posted 24 July , 2012 Thank you everybody for your obs re my Relative Cavanagh... It looks like he was indeed in the MGC I enclose a newspaper item on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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