D Moriarty no 8308 1st RMF

[john ring]

Hello fellow members :- i stumbled upon a selection of extracts from D MORIARTY DIARY on line by the GUARDIAN . I.E about twelve in all , various dates

Part of the entry for JULY 13 , QUOTE " I went out this morning and put two crosses over the graves of the men of W and Y companies who were killed on the

night of 1-2 may ( 13 of Y, 19 W and 8 of the machine gun " . The diary ends here . My question is this total KILLED accurate for the RMF ON THE 1-2 MAY ?

including my gr gd uncle "Patrick o'riordan 9838 1st RMF killed on the 2nd may " or if not accurate can anyone furnish me with the actual total killed in the RMF on the 2nd may ?

Either way at least he had some good mates to accompany him on his final journey to meet their maker. GOD BLESS THEM ALL

Looking forward to your replies , with many thanks and kindest regards , Cork Commrade

[roughdiamond]

A year would have helped! But anyway 62 Men of the RMF including Patrick listed on the CWGC site for those 2 dates in 1915, all but 2 only listed on the Helles Memorial http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1

9 on the 2nd, 8 of them on the Helles Memorial http://www.cwgc.org/...ad.aspx?cpage=1

Sam

[IPT]

Hi there,

As a guide, for 1st Bn RMF, SDGW shows up 52 casualties for 1/5/1915 and 8 casualties for 2/5/1915.

On the 2nd May, 3 of the 8 men who died were from Cork.

EDIT - I see Sam's found 2 more than me!

[roughdiamond]

EDIT - I see Sam's found 2 more than me!

IPT, 9880 Pte David Donovan http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/75228754/DONOVAN,%20DAVID is on an "Addenda Panel" and still to be added to the Memorial so won't be on SDGW, maybe another was added after SDGW was compiled but has since been added to the Memorial panel 185 - 190.

Sam

[john ring]

Hi there,

As a guide, for 1st Bn RMF, SDGW shows up 52 casualties for 1/5/1915 and 8 casualties for 2/5/1915.

On the 2nd May, 3 of the 8 men who died were from Cork.

EDIT - I see Sam's found 2 more than me!

Hello IPT :- Thank you for the info . Any idea of the names of the other two Cork men ?

thanks again for all your help ; regards Cork Commrade

[IPT]

Name:Patrick Moore

Birth Place:St. Ann's, Cork

Residence:Cork

Death Date:2 May 1915

Death Location:Gallipoli

Enlistment Location:Cork

Rank:Private

Regiment:Royal Munster Fusiliers

Battalion:1st Battalion

Number:8211

Type of Casualty:Killed in action

Theatre of War:Balkan Theatre

Name:Henry Sunner

Birth Place:St. Luke's, Cork

Residence:Cork

Death Date:2 May 1915

Death Location:Gallipoli

Enlistment Location:Tralee, Co. Kerry

Rank:C.Q.M.S.

Regiment:Royal Munster Fusiliers

Battalion:1st Battalion

Number:4932

Type of Casualty:Killed in action

Theatre of War:Balkan Theatre

(Sunner is mentioned in the diary by Moriarty when he died)

http://ww1.osborn.ws/a-gallipoli-diary

[john ring]

Hello IPT :- phoned a mate who is fairly knowledgeable and he sent me email .The total from cork is now four

JEREMIAH KENNEALLY NO 4781 RANK PRIVATE

1ST BN ROYAL MUNSTER FUSILIERS

BORN IN ALDERSHOT , ENGLAND ,RESIDED IN CORK

HE PREVIOUSLY SERVED IN THE SOUTH AFICAN CAMPAIGN AND IN INDIA , ENLISTED CORK

KILLED IN ACTION 2 / MAY / 1915

COMMEMORATED ON THE HELLES MEMORIAL ,PANEL 185 - 190

[IPT]

Now five.

The above 9880 David Donovan, who Sam found, was also born in Cork according to Ireland Casualties of WW1.

[john ring]

Hello IPT :- WOW FIVE ! . In your previous reply you said Henry Sunner , was mentioned in MORIARTY'S DIARY and i was wondering if

(1) My relative Patrick o'riordan 9838 1st Bn RMF was mentioned in the diary ?

(2) I would like to peruse the entire diary do you have a copy that you can e-mail me ? , or can it be found on-line ?

Thank's again for all your assistance . with kindest regards Cork Commrade

[IPT]

Hi there,

I read it online here. Looks like the entire diary;

http://ww1.osborn.ws/a-gallipoli-diary

IPT

[michaeldr]

Quote from post #1

Part of the entry for JULY 13 , QUOTE "I went out this morning and put two crosses over the graves of the men of W and Y companies who were killed on the night of 1-2 may ( 13 of Y, 19 W and 8 of the machine gun " .

This is background information but may be of interest

This was the time when the remnants of the RMF & the RDF combined to form 'The Dubsters'

On 30th April 1915 (at noon) the War Dairy informs that

“New organization adopted. The Battalion to consist of 2 coys Munsters & 2 coys Dublins.

'W' coy RMF,

'X' coy RMF,

'Y' '' RDF,

'Z' coy ''

This peculiar arrangement lasted until 19th May 1915: see WD entry

"Extract from B.O. No.9 G d. 19th May 1915. From today's date the 1st Battn. R.M.F. & 1st Battn. R.D.F. which were on 27th April 1915 amalgamated & known as the Dubster Battn. will be dealt with as separate units & resume their correct titles.”

The WD can be down-loaded from the NA for a reasonable price; its ref is WO/95/4310

[tharkin56]

i have pictures of many of the men mentioned in the diary you mention including Sunner

[bgl7294]

Tharkin56

Sir, 

Re your post indicating that you have a picture of Henry Sunner.

He was a Freemason, member of two Lodges   

Lodge Moyle No 2904 E.C. and Power Palmer No 2924 E.C.

I am currently involved in updating the Masonic - Great War Project records.

It would be great to have his photo to add to his record.

Would this be possible please.

Bruce

[museumtom]