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KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Can you please help with the colours of following queries

11 W York

2 R Irish Rifles

2/4 - 2/5 E Lanc

2/5 - 2/10 Manchester

237 MG Coy - horiz oval

92 MG Coy

93 MG Coy- both are X's with rounded ends

94 MG Coy - circle

247 MG Coy - X

232 MG Coy - X in square

193 MG Coy - X ith shell point downwards i middle

1/6 Cheshire

than you for your help with all of your assistance

Best regards

KENDO

Hello Kendo,

My source gives the following information:

11 W York = Diamond Yellow 4”X2½” Felt. Worn on Back

2 R Irish Rifles = Disc Khaki with Shamrock Green Embroidered on Felt

2/4 E Lanc = Square Dark Green 2” Felt

2/5 E Lanc = Square Red 1¾" Felt

2/5 Manchester = Disc Green 1¾" Felt

2/10 Manchester = Square Black 1¾" Cotton

237 MG Coy - horiz oval = Dark Blue

92 MG Coy = Red worn below Bde Sign rounded ends

93 MG Coy- both are X's with rounded ends.= Dark Blue squared ends according to source!

94 MG Coy – circle = Disc Black

247 MG Coy – X = Green

232 MG Coy - X in square = White Cross on Dark Blue Square

193 MG Coy - X ith shell point downwards i middle = Red Bomb on Dark Blue Cross

1/6 Cheshire = Diamond Black with smaller Diamond Red Felt on a felt

Regards

Arthur

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Hi Arthur

Thank you for all the info - tho i did give wrong bn number on two of them - cant read my own typing !!!. Should have been:-

1 R Irish rifles - should be square and quartered

1/5 Cheshire - pioneer bn of 56 Div

also do you have info on

2/6

2/7

2/8

2/9 - all Manch

Thank you

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KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Thank you for all the info - tho i did give wrong bn number on two of them - cant read my own typing !!!. Should have been:-

1 R Irish rifles - should be square and quartered

1/5 Cheshire - pioneer bn of 56 Div

also do you have info on

2/6

2/7

2/8

2/9 - all Manch

Thank you

Best regards

KENDO

Hello Kendo,

My source of information gives the following:

1st Royal Irish Rifles Square quartered Dark Green [Top left] & Black

1st/5th Cheshire Regiment Nothing found

2nd/6th Manchester Regiment Disc Red 1” Felt

2nd/7th Manchester Regiment Disc Dark Yellow 1½” Felt

2nd/8th Manchester Regiment Nothing found

2nd/9th Manchester Regiment Square Yellow 1¾" Cotton

Regards

Arthur

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Hi Arthur

Thank you for info. Can only assume 2/8 Manch is a black disc - going on the colour sequence of the other brigade in the division.

Can you please help me with the following:-

2 West York

21 West York

23 MG Coy

24 MG Coy

25 MG Coy

68 MG Coy

69 MG Coy

70 MG Coy

113 MG Coy

114 MG Coy

115 MG Coy

194 MG Coy

201 MG Coy

202 MG Coy

203 MG Coy

204 MG Coy

208 MG Coy

212 MG Coy

213 MG Coy

218 MG Coy

23 TMB

24 TMB

25 TMB

94 TMB

113 TMB

114 TMB

115 TMB

197 TMB

198 TMB

199 TMB

A tall order but am sure they are all in pamphlet. Thank you for all your assistance in my queries Arthur.

Best regards

KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Thank you for info. Can only assume 2/8 Manch is a black disc - going on the colour sequence of the other brigade in the division.

Can you please help me with the following:-

2 West York

21 West York

23 MG Coy

24 MG Coy

25 MG Coy

68 MG Coy

69 MG Coy

70 MG Coy

113 MG Coy

114 MG Coy

115 MG Coy

194 MG Coy

201 MG Coy

202 MG Coy

203 MG Coy

204 MG Coy

208 MG Coy

212 MG Coy

213 MG Coy

218 MG Coy

23 TMB

24 TMB

25 TMB

94 TMB

113 TMB

114 TMB

115 TMB

197 TMB

198 TMB

199 TMB

A tall order but am sure they are all in pamphlet. Thank you for all your assistance in my queries Arthur.

Best regards

KENDO

Hello Kendo,

66 Inf Div:

197 Bde Diamond green/red/yellow/black

198 Bde Square green/red/yellow/black

199 Bde Disc green/red/yellow/2nd/8th?

It is fair to assume that 2nd/8th had a black disc going by the make up of the other Bdes! However, if that was the case, then the

2nd/5th Manchester Regt would have had the green disc at that time instead of the black disc!

Perhaps someone out on the Forum with more knowledge on the 66th Inf Div, or the Manchester Regt can help you further!

My source gives the following information:

2 West York

Arc Maroon/Buff/Maroon 3"x1" Felt

21 West York

Diamond Red with letter P Orange Felt on felt

23 TMB

Arc Green with Grenade silhouette Black Felt on felt

24 TMB

Disc White with Grenade silhouette Blue Embroidered on felt

25 TMB

Square Yellow with Grenade silhouette Dark Blue Embroidered on felt

94 TMB

Disc White Worn below Bde sign Square halved horizontally Red & White Felt

23 MG Coy

Arc Green with Cross Red diagonal Felt on felt

24 MG Coy

Disc White with Crossed M/guns and Crown Red Embroidered on felt

25 MG Coy

Square Yellow with Crossed M/guns and Crown Red Embroidered on felt

68 MG Coy

Square Dark Green 1½" Felt

69 MG Coy

Square Green 1¼" Felt

70 MG Coy

Square Red 1½" Felt

113 MG Coy

Inverted Triangle Black 1½" sides Velvet

114 MG Coy

Disc Black1½" diameter Felt

115 MG Coy

Square Black 1½" Felt

194 MG Coy

Square Yellow 1¼" Felt

202 MG Coy

Diamond Blue 3"X2" Cotton

203 MG Coy

Blue Square 2" Cotton

204 MG Coy

Disc Dark Red 1½" diameter Felt

208 MG Coy

Cross Yellow diagonal 2½" Felt

212 MG Coy

Cross Dark Blue diagonal 2" Felt

213 MG Coy

Cross Red diagonal 3" Felt

218 MG Coy

Disc [small] Red with Crossed M/guns Black Embroidered on felt

No information on the following

113 TMB

114 TMB

115 TMB

197 TMB

198 TMB

199 TMB

201 MG Coy

Regards

Arthur

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Hi Arthur

Thank you once again for info - have done more in the last two weeks than have done in a long time.

Quite surprised that the pamphlet did not have the follwing TMB's. I have them listed as following:-

38 Div

113 TMB - triangle

114 TMB - circle

115 TMB - square

66 Div

197 TMB - diamond

198 TMB - square

199 TMB - circle

Can you just confirm colours of arc for 2 Scottish Rifles - I have them down as blue/black/green. Is this correct ?

Best regards

KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Thank you once again for info - have done more in the last two weeks than have done in a long time.

Quite surprised that the pamphlet did not have the follwing TMB's. I have them listed as following:-

38 Div

113 TMB - triangle

114 TMB - circle

115 TMB - square

66 Div

197 TMB - diamond

198 TMB - square

199 TMB - circle

Can you just confirm colours of arc for 2 Scottish Rifles - I have them down as blue/black/green. Is this correct ?

Best regards

KENDO

Hello Kendo,

My source of information gives the following:

2nd Cameronians Arc Blue/Black/Green Hessian

Yes I do have them, and I found the information after I had sent the previous information last night.

38 Div

113 TMB - Triangle Blue-Grey 2” sides Felt

114 TMB - Disc Blue-Grey 2” diameter Felt

115 TMB - Square Blue 1¼" Felt

66 Div

197 TMB - Diamond Blue 3"X2" Felt

198 TMB - Square Blue over Vertical Rectangle Khaki with Grenade Blue Embroidered on felt

199 TMB - Disc Blue 1¼" diameter Cotton

Regards

Arthur

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Hello Kendo,

My source of information gives the following:

2nd Cameronians Arc Blue/Black/Green Hessian

Yes I do have them, and I found the information after I had sent the previous information last night.

38 Div

113 TMB - Triangle Blue-Grey 2" sides Felt

114 TMB - Disc Blue-Grey 2" diameter Felt

115 TMB - Square Blue 1¼" Felt

66 Div

197 TMB - Diamond Blue 3"X2" Felt

198 TMB - Square Blue over Vertical Rectangle Khaki with Grenade Blue Embroidered on felt

199 TMB - Disc Blue 1¼" diameter Cotton

Regards

Arthur

Hi Arthur

Thank you for info on 38 and 66 Divs TMB's.

the fourth MG Coy of 38 Div was 176 MG Coy i dont suppose this is listed inyour source. The 66 Div did not have a fourth coy.

Best regards

KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Did not think that one would be listed - thank you for looking.

Can you have a look for these odds and ends please to fill the gaps

2 Essex

4 Bedford

1/8 R Scots

1/7 Worc

1/8 Worc

14 Worc

2 R Irish Regt

1/5 Border

8 Border

1/4 York

1/5 York

20 DLI

9 Y & L

1/28 London

200 MG Coy

250 MG Coy

Thank you very much for your assistance

Best regards

KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Did not think that one would be listed - thank you for looking.

Can you have a look for these odds and ends please to fill the gaps

2 Essex

4 Bedford

1/8 R Scots

1/7 Worc

1/8 Worc

14 Worc

2 R Irish Regt

1/5 Border

8 Border

1/4 York

1/5 York

20 DLI

9 Y & L

1/28 London

200 MG Coy

250 MG Coy

Thank you very much for your assistance

Best regards

KENDO

Hello Kendo,

My source gives the following information:

2[a] Essex

Square Red 1½" Felt

2 Essex

Diamond Red 1½" sides Felt

4 Bedford

Bar Black with central Stripe Amber Felt e.g. ½"/¼"/½"

1/8 R Scots

Nothing found

1/7 Worc

Nothing found

1/8[a] Worc

A Coy Inverted V Blue Felt on Cotton

B Coy Inverted V Red Felt on Cotton

C Coy Inverted V Yelow Felt on Cotton

D Coy Inverted V Green Felt on Cotton

1/8 Worc

Diamond Green with Border White Cotton

14 Worc

A Coy Square Red 2" Cotton

B Coy Square Blue 2" Cotton

C Coy Square Yellow 2" Cotton

D Coy Square Light Green 2" Cotton

2 R Irish Regt

Nothing found

1/5 Border

Horizontal Diamond Yellow 4"X3" Cotton

8[a] Border

Rectangle Green 2½"X½" Felt Worn on collar

8 Border

Rectangle Green/Narrow Yellow/Purple/Narrow Yellow/Green Ribbon. Worn on the shoulder

1/4 York

Square Red 2" sides Cotton

1/5 York

Square Dark Green 2" sides Cotton

20 DLI

Nothing found

9 Y & L

Rectangle Khaki Numerals IX Black Felt on felt

1/28 London

Shoulder title Arc Grey with Black letters Artists Embroidered on felt

200 MG Coy

Nothing found

250 MG Coy

Nothing found.

Regards

Arthur

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Hi Arthur

once again you have helped me fill in the gaps - am slowly but surely getting there !

Best regards

KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Can you have a look in your source for the following - I think most of them are not in there though, but worth a try before I approach the appropiate museum.

9 Dukes

5 SWB

6 SWB

8 LN Lancs

9 LN Lancs

1/5 DLI

1/8 DLI

1/9 DLI

11 LF

11 Cheshire

13 Cheshire

11 Sher For

1/4 E York

Thank you for your help

Best regards

KENDO

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Hi Arthur

Can you have a look in your source for the following - I think most of them are not in there though, but worth a try before I approach the appropiate museum.

9 Dukes

5 SWB

6 SWB

8 LN Lancs

9 LN Lancs

1/5 DLI

1/8 DLI

1/9 DLI

11 LF

11 Cheshire

13 Cheshire

11 Sher For

1/4 E York

Thank you for your help

Best regards

KENDO

Hello Kendo,

I am sorry to say that this is the last check for a little while my man as I have very busy time ahead of me. I do hope that the information that I've supplied so far has helped you!

My source gives the following information:

9 Dukes

Rectangle Maroon 2½"X2" Felt

9 LN Lancs

Square Navy Blue 1¼" Felt

1/5 DLI

Square Blue 2" Cotton

1/8 DLI

Diamond Blue

1/9 DLI

Diamond Green

11 Cheshire

Square Khaki Cross "X" Red Embrodered on Silk

1/4 E York

[a]Square Dark Green 2" Felt

Diamond Green with numeral "4" White Felt on felt

[c]Diamond halved horizontally White over Green Felt. Worn on helmet

For those units not mentioned here from your list there was nothing found, that is with the exception of the 11th Bn Lancashire Fusiliers which I've already given you that information.

Regards

Arthur

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Hi Arthur

I would like to thank you so much for all the assistance you have given me over the past weeks, your help has been invaluable in helping me construct the battle schemes of British divisions of the war. There is still much to be done especially with those divisions serving outside the Western Front theatre but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel with the help you have provided me. Once again many thanks

With very best regards

KENDO

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