RodB Posted 23 December , 2011 Share Posted 23 December , 2011 Below are two photographs from the IWM, identified as of a Queen Elizabeth class ship after the Battle of Jutland, showing shell damage. Can anybody identify the ship(s) ? As I understand it, Warspite, Barham and Malaya sustained damage at Jutland. I think the first may be Warspite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Hayes Posted 23 December , 2011 Share Posted 23 December , 2011 I hope a forum member can help but, if not, you may like to try the Merseyside Maritime Museum. There's a chap there who is celebrated as an 'expert' on the Battle of Jutland. Sadly, I don't know his name. http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/contact.asp Kind regards, Sandie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battiscombe Posted 23 December , 2011 Share Posted 23 December , 2011 the first one appears on other WWW image sources as Warspite. such as here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepper Posted 23 December , 2011 Share Posted 23 December , 2011 Another source might be http://www.oldweather.org/ although they are primarily concerend with weather reports they do seem to have access to a lot of ships logs from the war and after so might be able to do look ups. A quick glance and I see that they have transcribed some post war logs of Warspite so they might have others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 23 December , 2011 Share Posted 23 December , 2011 try the Merseyside Maritime Museum. There's a chap there who is celebrated as an 'expert' on the Battle of Jutland. Sadly, I don't know his name. World famous on Merseyside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonharley Posted 23 December , 2011 Share Posted 23 December , 2011 The lower photo would appear to be of Warspite. The top one might be also, but I'm away from my sources. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodB Posted 27 December , 2011 Author Share Posted 27 December , 2011 Thank you gentlemen... seems like the opinion is that they are both Warspite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 27 December , 2011 Share Posted 27 December , 2011 Thank you gentlemen... seems like the opinion is that they are both Warspite. I think so too - in my copy of the enormous coffee-table book "Fighting Ships 1850 - 1950", there is a print of an RN watercolour of HMS Warspite marked up with the hits received at Jutland, in red for portside and green for starboard. Both pics appear to correspond to portside hits - the first forward of the first 6" casemate and 'A' mounting, about level with the breakwater, and the second abeam of 'Y' mounting. Regards, MikB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodB Posted 28 December , 2011 Author Share Posted 28 December , 2011 Are you saying that the IWM's identification of "A" turret (i.e. seen from starboard) for the second photo is incorrect, that we are in fact looking at "Y" turret from the port side ? The IWM caption for the second photo reads ""A" turret on board a QUEEN ELIZABETH class battleship in dry dock showing damage caused by German shellfire at the battle of Jutland". Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonharley Posted 28 December , 2011 Share Posted 28 December , 2011 Definitely "Y" turret, viewed from Port. I used the same drawing MikB is referring to, albeit from a pamphlet with diagrams of every other British ship damaged at Jutland included in it, accompanied by detailed descriptions of the damage sustained. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 28 December , 2011 Share Posted 28 December , 2011 Are you saying that the IWM's identification of "A" turret (i.e. seen from starboard) for the second photo is incorrect, that we are in fact looking at "Y" turret from the port side ? The IWM caption for the second photo reads ""A" turret on board a QUEEN ELIZABETH class battleship in dry dock showing damage caused by German shellfire at the battle of Jutland". Rod I'm afraid so. Either that, or the RN's drawing is wrong. There's no sign of a breakwater on deck about midway down the gun barrels, as there would be if it were 'A' mounting. Regards, MikB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodB Posted 28 December , 2011 Author Share Posted 28 December , 2011 Thank you gentlemen, I've also looked at some other photos of the class and port side it appears to be. I used to email the IWM with corrections and a nice bloke used to thank me and correct the online caption. Now they ignore feedback so I don't bother. Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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