Great War Trophy Guns, Canada

[Skaarup.HA]

I am researching and cataloguing all surviving Great War Guns, Howitzers and Mortars brought to Canada and distributed to communities across the country in 1920. Of the 536 guns, more than 300 have been confirmed destroyed in 1942 for the war effort in the Second World War. If you can add any missing guns to the list, or provide serial numbers for guns you are close enough to visit it would be greatly appreciated.

German Great War Trophy Survivors in Canada

Esquimalt, British Columbia

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Registration No. 595, thisgun was captured by the 2^nd Canadian Mounted Rifles at Cambrai, West of Neuville St. Remy, France on 29September 1918.

Edmonton, Alberta

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, left side of flagpole at LFWA HQ. Possibly Serial No. 929.

German Great War 7.7-cm Feldkanone96 neuer Art Field Gun, right side offlagpole at LFWA HQ. Posibly Serial No.4945, or Serial No. 12557 (no data).

Frank, Alberta

10.5-cm leichtesFeldhaubitze leFH 98/09 Light Field Howitzer, SerialNo. 3392, 1916.

High Prairie,Alberta

15-cm schwereFeldhaubitze 1902 Heavy Field Howitzer. Possibly Serial No. 14306.

Lethbridge

10-cm Kanone 17 Field Gun, missing its carriage.

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze 1902 Heavy Field Howitzer. Serial No. 1101 (no data).

Peace River, Alberta

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, mounted on an iron wheeled carriage. Serial No. 9366 (no data).

Stavely,Alberta

17-cm mittlerer Minenwerfer Trench Mortar. Recorded as Serial No. 1972

Taber, Alberta

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 9383 (no data).

Estevan, Saskatchewan

7.7-cm Feldkanone96 neuer Art Field Gun. Serial No.8601 (no data).

Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

15-cm Kanone 16 Heavy Gun, Serial No. 1034(no data), missing wheel carriage, mounted on a barrel transporter carriage,Sgt Hugh Cairns VC Armoury, Idyllwild Avenue.

Springside, Saskatchewan

German Great War 7.7-cm Feldkanone 16 Field Gun, missing wheels,mounted on a concrete stand, cenotaph. Possibly Serial No. 28320.

Royal Canadian Artillery Museum,CFB Shilo, Manitoba

24-cm Flügelminenwerfer ‘Iko’,Albrecht wooden Trench Mortar.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 6373 (no data), originallyon display in Rockwood, Ontario.

10.5-cm leichtesFeldhaubitze 16 Light Field Howitzer.

Carman, Manitoba

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, left side of the Great War Memorial Hall. Possibly Serial No. 15207.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art FieldGun, right side of the Great War Memorial Hall.

Neepawa, Manitoba

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze 13. PossiblySerial No. 2790.

PilotMound, Manitoba

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar. Serial No. 18043 (no data).

Brantford, Ontario

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze 13 Heavy Field Howitzer, Jubilee Park beside BoerWarMemorial. Possibly Serial No. 373.

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze 1902 Heavy Field Howitzer. CMHM.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16Field Gun. Serial No. 22990. CMHM.

Chapleau, Ontario

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt, Trench Mortar, AEG M1916 mounted on an iron wheeled carriage. Serial No. 33025 (no data).

Coe Hill, Ontario

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar, mounted on a round iron stand at the cenotaph. Serial No. 7495 (no data).

Collingwood, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art. Serial No. 3263 (no data).

Durham, Ontario

17-cm mittlererMinenwerferMedium Trench Mortar on iron wheels. Serial No. 1682.

Flesherton, Ontario

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar, AEG M1916, right side of thecenotaph. Serial No. 4449.

Kars, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, no wheels, missing parts.S & P Museum.

Kingston, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, mounted on a Naval stand, Boucher Park. Posibly Serial No. 8368.

Milton, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16Field Gun, Serial No. No. 9563.

Mount Forest, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Possibly Serial No. 7313.

Morrisburg, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, left side of Great War Memorial in front of the South Dundas JusticeBuilding.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, right side of Great War Memorial in front of the South DundasJustice Building.

Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario

10-cm Kanone 14 Field Gun, Serial No. 201.

Niagara Falls, Ontario

10-cm Kanone 17. Possibly Serial No. 105. D Company, Lincoln & Welland Regiment, (VictoriaStreet) Armoury, 5049 Victoria Ave.

Norfolk, Ontario

25-cm schwerer Minenwerfer (no data).

Omemee

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar on round stand with spoked wheels. Serial No. 15867.

Canadian War Museum, Ottawa, Ontario

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuer Art, Trench Mortar, AEG M1916 mounted on an iron carriage.

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuer Art, Trench Mortar, AEG M1916, rifled, stamped 2108625, jk, 2660, 5169,(Serial No. 5160-1916), mounted on wooden carriage wheels.

5-cm leichtes Granatwerfer36 (two).

9.15-cm leichtes Minenwerfer System Lanz, (SerialNo. 4785).

24-cm Flügelminenwerfer ‘Iko’,Albrecht, wooden mortar.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, Krupp Ehrhardt, (Serial No. VtNr. 3224/1918).

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun on a British Naval/Coast Defence Mounting. 8.8-cm L/30 Ubts SubmarineDeck Gun from U-91.

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze sFH 02 Heavy Field Howitzer,Fried Krupp AG 1916, (Serial No. 877).

21-cm Mörser 1910 neuer Art Heavy Mortar, Serial No. 679,Krupp AG, Essen. Possibly one of threeallocated to Ottawa: Serial No. 1221, captured by the 102^ndBattalion near Bourlon Wood, France, 27 September 1918; or Serial No. 1794 (nodata); or Serial No. 1805 (no data).

CFB Petawawa, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16Field Gun, Menin Road. Possibly Serial No. 8094 (no data).

Port Hope, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 291.

Sault Ste Marie, Ontario

10.5-cm leichtes Feldhaubitze 98/09 Light Field Howitzer, Royal Canadian LegionBranch No. 25. Serial No. 46.

Shelburne, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun, stamped 1897 and 1905.

St Catherine’s, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16Field Gun, Ridley College. PossiblySerial No. 7981 (no data).

Sturgeon Falls, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 3264.

Trenton, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16 Field Gun. (Serial No. 12490 (no data).

Waterford, Ontario

25-cm schwererMinenwerfer, HighSchool Monument. Possibly Serial No.1930.

Woodbridge, Ontario

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16Field Gun, Woodbridge Tower Memorial,Canadian Military Heritage Museum. Serial No. 5803.

15-cm FeldkanoneL/40 in Räderlafette Naval Gun on Field carriage,Woodbridge Tower Memorial, CMHM.

15-cm FeldkanoneL/45 in Räderlafette Naval Gun on Field carriage,Woodbridge Tower Memorial, CMHM.

Brome County Museum, Knowlton, Québec

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar. Serial No. 5005.

25-cm schwererMinenwerfer alt Art Trench Mortar. SerialNo. 1524.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 8382.

Lévis, Quebec

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun, 10 rue de l'ArsenalLévis.

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze sFH 02 Heavy Field Howitzer, 10 rue de l'Arsenal.

La Citadelle, Québec City, Québec

21-cm Mörser 1916 neuer Art HeavyMortar.

Plains of Abraham Park, Québec City, Québec

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 9742.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16Field Gun, Serial No. 8899.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 16Field Gun, Serial No. 12323.

10-cm Kanone 17 Field Gun, with blown barrel.

10.5-cm leichtesFeldhaubitze 98/09 Light Field Howitzer. Serial No. 5051.

21-cm Mörser 1916 neuer ArtHeavy Mortar.

Terrebonne,Québec

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuer Art, Trench Mortar. Serial No. 305 (nodata).

CFBValcartier, Québec

10.5-cm Feldhaubitze98/09, Serial No. 1098.

Campbellton, NewBrunswick.

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 2402 (no data).

Chipman, New Brunswick

German Great War 17-cmmittlerer Minenwerfer, Medium Trench Mortar, Serial No. 7095, H, 2, 1918.

GrandFalls, New brunswick

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun. Serial No. 8283. City Park.

Hopewell Cape, New Brunswick

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer ArtField Gun. Serial No. 784 (no data).

10-cm Feldkanone 14 Field Gun, 1917. Serial No. 590.

Armour School, CombatTraining Centre, Bldg J-7, CFB Gagetown, New Brunswick

17-cm mittlerer Minenwerfer Medium Trench Mortar. Serial No.848.

Canadian Forces School ofMilitary Engineering, Combat Training Centre, CFB Gagetown, New Brunswick

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar. (Serial No. 32258).

Perth-Andover, New Brunswick

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun. Serial No. 4095 (no data).

Woodstock, New Brunswick

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun. Serial No. 2398 (no data).

Kensington, Prince Edward Island

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze 1902 Heavy Field Howitzer. PossiblySerial No. 86.

Bridgewater, Nova Scotia

10.5-cm leichtesFeldhaubitze 16 Light Field Howitzer. Possibly Serial No.1638 (no data).

Army Museum, Halifax,Nova Scotia

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt.

Sydney, Nova Scotia

17-cmmittlerer Minenwerfer, Medium Trench Mortar.

Fort Edward, Windsor, Nova Scotia

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun (TBC).

Bonavista, Newfoundland

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun.

Carbonear, Newfoundland

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar, RCL No. 23.

Harbour Buffet

17-cm mittlerer Minenwerfer Medium Trench Mortar.

Placentia, Newfoundland

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun.

St Georges, Newfoundland

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar, RCL Branch No. 38.

St John`s, Newfoundland

10-cm Kanone 17 Field Gun, Victoria Park. Thetrail has been cut off and the forward part of the gun rests on a concretestand with a plaque in the park.

15-cm schwere Feldhaubitze 13 Heavy Field Howitzer.

Pleasantville, RoyalCanadian Legion Branch No. 56, St. John’s, Newfoundland

10-cm Kanone 17 Field Gun.

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar (two).

Spaniard`s Bay, Bay Roberts, Newfoundland

7.58-cm leichtes Minenwerfer neuerArt,Trench Mortar.

Stephenville Crossing, Newfoundland

25-cm schwerer Minenwerfer.

Trinity, Newfoundland

7.7-cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art Field Gun.

[CharlieBris]

We're doing the same thing in Australia - the objective is to have a national website with all historic artillery pieces.

Most of the WW1 guns in Queensland are here: AMMS Brisbane, the guns in South Australia are here: Tributes of Honour

(you have to search for "weapons").

May I suggest asking your question on the Landships forum there are some Canadian members there.

Have you looked at Bernard Plumier's Passion Compassion 14-18 website - there are some Canadian guns in the database.

Regards,

Charlie

[scottmarchand]

This reference might help a bit too

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:9YBEvwg2c6QJ:journals.hil.unb.ca/index.php/MCR/article/download/17659/18935+esterhazy+saskatchewan+war+trophy&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiauCVvqujJIRdnKaQX2U6SQ3Ap40kaTG-xplZyAm0oETPbFuLV-V77sKKsrTX6drPIO3J9BcpOqGXZ8021k5_devBRQR554qeOMlzNhDT2rFdFIulZvY_b0kDaBbHrtDc8c9Uc&sig=AHIEtbQ7HfCKqt1NLKATTGZptfl3HGwlcg

[scottmarchand]

and this

Ridley College War Souvenir a Reminder of Our Fallen Soldiers

Posted on November 5, 2010 by meganbrady

Today Mr. Paul Lewis – our archivist and Grade 12 student Gianni B. who is also the Commanding Officer of the Ridley College Cadet Corps. are featured in an article in the St. Catharines Standard and the Niagara Falls Review. The article is about the German Howitzer

the World War One war trophy that is under the flagpole by School House. The field piece has been on campus since the early 1920s and although it may seem like a permanent fixture Mr. Lewis tells Don Fraser that it holds much more significance than just being a monument on campus:

http://blogs.ridleycollege.com/page/19/

there is also this thread on the CEF forum:

http://www.cefresearch.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6504

[Skaarup.HA]

Yes, and many thanks for your response Charlie. These guns are pieces of our military history, taking an interest in raising awareness of what they stand for is one way of preserving our heritage. Good luck with your hunt. I have found more by word of mouth i.e. George spoke to Frieda who introduced me to Nelson who told me to go 25 km South of a farm where some community had gotten rid of a gun and the farmer salvaged it. I tromped through the field and sure enogh, a 7.7-cm FK 86 n.A. minus its carriage intact, originally given to a specific town. At least not destroyed, and that gives me hope there are more survivors out there. I hope you find the same.

Harold sends

We're doing the same thing in Australia - the objective is to have a national website with all historic artillery pieces.

Most of the WW1 guns in Queensland are here: AMMS Brisbane, the guns in South Australia are here: Tributes of Honour

(you have to search for "weapons").

May I suggest asking your question on the Landships forum there are some Canadian members there.

Have you looked at Bernard Plumier's Passion Compassion 14-18 website - there are some Canadian guns in the database.

Regards,

Charlie

[Skaarup.HA]

Good threads, many thanks, I have used quotes from these in Shelldrake.

Harold sends

and this

Ridley College War Souvenir a Reminder of Our Fallen Soldiers

Posted on November 5, 2010 by meganbrady

Today Mr. Paul Lewis – our archivist and Grade 12 student Gianni B. who is also the Commanding Officer of the Ridley College Cadet Corps. are featured in an article in the St. Catharines Standard and the Niagara Falls Review. The article is about the German Howitzer

the World War One war trophy that is under the flagpole by School House. The field piece has been on campus since the early 1920s and although it may seem like a permanent fixture Mr. Lewis tells Don Fraser that it holds much more significance than just being a monument on campus:

http://blogs.ridleyc...ge.com/page/19/

there is also this thread on the CEF forum:

http://www.cefresear...opic.php?t=6504

[RodB]

These long lists have got me thinking : is it possible that in fact countries receiving enemy guns as war booty have ended up preserving as much of the enemy's ordnance as their own, because so many of the captured guns were incorporated into memorials and/or placed in locations where it was inconvenient or overlooked to scrap them ?

[Skaarup.HA]

I would say yes. In many cases Allied nations have preserved German equipment that was not preserved in Germany after both the world wars. Many years after the Second World War for examle, the Americans transferred a Panzer Mk VI King Tiger II back to the German Tank Museum in Munster. Until then, none were known to exist in Germany proper. Even your most basic Tiger I is rare, such as acut up version at Sinzheim. Canada does not have one. Capt Farley Mowat brought a Panzer Mk V Panther back to Canada in 1945, and it was later shot up on the range at CFB Petawawa (we are still looking for the hull). A second one is restored in our Canadian War Museum in Ottawa. A StuG III was loaned from CFB Shilo to a museum in Calgary, which ran short of funds and sold it without authorization to a collector in California who restored it and sold it to another collector in the UK early this year. The kit is so rare it is worth a small fortune, so museums like the one at Sinzheim in Germany have serious businessmen out hunting for them to be brought back. In spite of that, the best collections of German kit from the Great War are the survivors of the 1920s that weren't scrapped in 1942. Crashed aircraft from these wars are also sought after for their rarity, and every rumour is worth checking out. I was on an Army exercise with the British forces near Paderborn, Germany, who told the story of six King Tiger tanks that conducted a fighting withdrawal back through their training area in 1945, and disappeared. No wreckage or trace of them has ever been found, even though the battle was documented. The British believed the Germans had a well concelaed underground hangar they hid the tanks in, then blew the entrance. Perhaps one day these rare tanks will surface again. I have learned that more than one of the Great War guns in Canada has already been buried in a landfill, although most of the others are very well taken care of. We need to increase the awareness of what these things stand for in our history...and I will step down from my soapbox.

Cheers,

Hal sends

These long lists have got me thinking : is it possible that in fact countries receiving enemy guns as war booty have ended up preserving as much of the enemy's ordnance as their own, because so many of the captured guns were incorporated into memorials and/or placed in locations where it was inconvenient or overlooked to scrap them ?