Peter Beckett Posted 17 July , 2004 Share Posted 17 July , 2004 Can any of our experts tell me what regiment this is and a translation of the latin motto on it. Thanks in advance Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 17 July , 2004 Share Posted 17 July , 2004 "Where duty* and glory lead". The motto of the Royal Regiment of Artillery. They also use "Ubique", just as the Royal Engineers do. For the Engineers, it means "Everywhere"; for the gunners, "All over the place". *often translated as "right" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 17 July , 2004 Author Share Posted 17 July , 2004 Chris, thanks for that. "all over the place" might be where the artillery got its un-official name of "Cloud Punchers" Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnreed Posted 17 July , 2004 Share Posted 17 July , 2004 "Cloud Punchers" is a term used for the Air Defence Regiments of the Royal Artillery. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Warnes Posted 17 July , 2004 Share Posted 17 July , 2004 It is also a Territorial cap badge, no "Ubique" or battle honour on the top scroll spider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Egalton Posted 17 July , 2004 Share Posted 17 July , 2004 Peter, It's the Territorial Force artillery badge. I believe the territorials wore the same badge as the regulars from 1917 - I guess by then they had been ' everywhere'. Regards Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 17 July , 2004 Author Share Posted 17 July , 2004 Thanks everyone for that info. Is there any significance in the "leaves" below the crown? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Fisher Posted 17 July , 2004 Share Posted 17 July , 2004 Peter The leaves replace the regular units' "UBIQUE" title. By the fact that this badge has seen some polish once or twice, we know it's genuine. Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 18 July , 2004 Share Posted 18 July , 2004 The leaves replace the regular units' "UBIQUE" title. ...and probably have no significance whatsoever. It's just that it looks more attractive than a completely blank bit. dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Warnes Posted 18 July , 2004 Share Posted 18 July , 2004 It is also a Territorial cap badge, no "Ubique" or battle honour on the top scroll. spider The Artillery has no battle honours as such so that is why the word Ubique (everywhere) is used, the same as the Engineers. As Dave suggested no significance just filling in the gaps, the leaves come in varying quantities the one shown is 10 others more Spider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroc Posted 18 July , 2004 Share Posted 18 July , 2004 Just a quick question as a bit of an aside; did Territorial units of the RA in WW2 (I'm thinking primarily of converted Yeomanry) adopt Royal Artillery insignia, or did they retain their own cap badges and dress distinctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 18 July , 2004 Author Share Posted 18 July , 2004 And another question on the side (I did start the thread ): Was this badge also the same for WW2 ? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Egalton Posted 18 July , 2004 Share Posted 18 July , 2004 And another question on the side (I did start the thread ): Was this badge also the same for WW2 ? Yes the badge was the same in both wars. The Royal Artillery still wear the same badge today but with the Queens crown. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Egalton Posted 18 July , 2004 Share Posted 18 July , 2004 Just a quick question as a bit of an aside; did Territorial units of the RA in WW2 (I'm thinking primarily of converted Yeomanry) adopt Royal Artillery insignia, or did they retain their own cap badges and dress distinctions? TA units of the artillery wore Royal Artillery insignia. Converted yeomanry and infantry would often have their old title in the new. eg: 224 (Blankshire Yeomanry) Field Regiment Royal Artillery. Regards Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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