mummymilly Posted 23 June , 2011 Share Posted 23 June , 2011 Has any one got any information on any of the following Private Albert Barker. Edward Brumpton. George Camplin. George R Cartwright MM. Roger James Cholmely MC. Harry Elvin. Tom T Kitchen. Thomas Stephenson. Edmund Wright. George Hedley Westerby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 23 June , 2011 Share Posted 23 June , 2011 These should be your men. EDIT: I've amended Cartwright based on the information received in the next post. There's a link to RJ Cholmeley at the end. I couldn't work out how an Australian lecturer with a wife in London was connected. However, I found him on the 1881 census aged 9 in Swaby. Name:Albert Barker Birth Place:Withern Residence:Swaby Death Date:11 Aug 1915 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Chelsea Rank:Private Regiment:Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) Battalion:9th Battalion Number:6447 Type of Casualty:Died of wounds Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Tom Kitchen Birth Place:Scunthorpe, Lincs Residence:Swaby, Lincs Death Date:16 Apr 1916 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Scunthorpe Rank:Private Regiment:Lincolnshire Regiment Battalion:8th Battalion Number:17895 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:George Hedley Westerby Birth Place:Alford, Lincs Residence:Swaby, Lincs Death Date:5 Aug 1916 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Louth, Lincs Rank:Private Regiment:Lincolnshire Regiment Battalion:10th Battalion Number:1564 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:George Camplin Birth Place:Swaby, Lincs Residence:Alford, Lincs Death Date:20 Aug 1915 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Nottingham Rank:Rifleman Regiment:King's Royal Rifle Corps Battalion:8th Battalion Number:R/7464 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Edmund Wright Birth Place:Swaby, Lincs Death Date:19 Oct 1916 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Grimsby Rank:Private Regiment:Alexandra, Princess of Wales's Own (Yorkshire Regiment) Battalion:15th Battalion Number:31358 Type of Casualty:Died Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Harry Elvin Birth Place:Warth, Lincs Residence:Gosberton, Lincs Death Date:1 Jul 1916 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Boston, Lincs Rank:Private Regiment:Lincolnshire Regiment Battalion:2nd Battalion Number:12295 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Edward Brumpton Birth Place:Driby, Lincs Residence:Alford Death Date:10 Oct 1918 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Louth, Lincs Rank:Private Regiment:East Yorkshire Regiment Battalion:7th Battalion Number:225762 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Thomas William Stephenson Birth Place:Swarby, Lincs Residence:Swarby, Lincs Death Date:26 Jun 1917 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Grimsby Rank:Private Regiment:Lincolnshire Regiment Battalion:5th Battalion Number:241277 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Name:Charles Robinson Cartwright Birth Place:Louth, Lincs Residence:Caleeby, Lincs Death Date:16 Apr 1918 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Louth Rank:L/Corporal Regiment:Lincolnshire Regiment Battalion:10th BattalionNumber:702 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European TheatreComments:M.M. Name:Roger James Cholmeley Death Date:16 Aug 1919 Rank:Captain Regiment:Cheshire Regiment Decoration:MC Type of Casualty:Drowned Comments:In Action http://espace.librar.../view/UQ:223336 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo794 Posted 23 June , 2011 Share Posted 23 June , 2011 Has any one got any information on any of the following Private Albert Barker. Edward Brumpton. George Camplin. George R Cartwright MM. Roger James Cholmely MC. Harry Elvin. Tom T Kitchen. Thomas Stephenson. Edmund Wright. George Hedley Westerby What information would you like? I have a photograph of the Memorial stone somewhere among my collection. The confusion with Cartwright is due to the wrong christian names transcribed, it should read No.702 Cpl. Charles Robinson Carwright MM., CdG. of the 10/Lincolns 'Grimsby Chums' who hailed from Whitepit/Swaby. KIA 16/04/1918. I have full details on this man, many family photographs, postcards, a family tree, among other items. Let me know what you would like to find out. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 23 June , 2011 Share Posted 23 June , 2011 Hi Dick, I've amended the above list and hopefully it's now complete. I looked up Cartwright in Duvigny's and it says that he was the son of an agricultural labourer but went to public school? IPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo794 Posted 23 June , 2011 Share Posted 23 June , 2011 IPT I don't think they were short of a few bob, though. Judging by the family photographs they were quite well to do. They were family friends of the Bellamy's, a family of businessmen who had a factory selling soft drinks. On of the sons, a Captain with the same battalion was wounded on the first day of the Somme and DoW 24th July, 1916. Among the paperwork is a black bordered death notice/letter informing the Cartwright's of Captain Bellamy's death. Going back in time they were farmers owning land nearer to Lincoln and Hackthorn, today there are still some of the Cartwright's still owning land and farming in the area. He was awarded the Divisional Honour card for actions during the attacks of the 9th -14th April, with the MM and Croix de Guerre, one of only two awarded to the 10/Lincs. DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo794 Posted 23 June , 2011 Share Posted 23 June , 2011 Name:Charles Robinson Cartwright Birth Place:Louth, Lincs Residence:Caleeby, Lincs Death Date:16 Apr 1918 Death Location:France & Flanders Enlistment Location:Louth Rank:L/Corporal Regiment:Lincolnshire Regiment Battalion:10th BattalionNumber:702 Type of Casualty:Killed in action Theatre of War:Western European TheatreComments:M.M. For 'Caleeby' read 'Calcethorpe' a village very close to Cadwell Park, a place very close to my heart DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mummymilly Posted 3 July , 2011 Author Share Posted 3 July , 2011 I think that the place he was from is Calceby it is a village just down the hill from Swaby and is often put in the same church area people came from Calceby, whitepit, driby and Swaby because the methodist chapel was there because the land owners at South Ormsby would have one on their land! Im off to Swaby Today so I will say hello to all of them If you have any photos I would love to see them I have found loads about Cholemely RJ who was on oxford scholar went to south Africa and was in the 2nd Boer war then became a lecturer at Rhoades University he was an expert in greek and could speak Russian . He then went to Australia and was a founder member of the University of Queensland he was an eccentric fella in a straw boater and baggy trousers. He was in his 40s when he was turned down by the ozzy army so came back to England joined the cheshire regt as a capt and was an intelligence brigadier near messines where he won his MC he then went up to Murmansk after armistice and was aboard ship during the fighting on the aftermath of the Russian revolution and the fighting there, He was overhauling the guns on a dark and rough night in Aug 1919 when he was washed overboard and drowned. He is remembered at Archangel. What afella I am hoping now to find out more about Charles cartwright and the others Thanks for all your help again lads Kirsten Kirsten_millinson@tiscali.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Granthampie Posted 8 March , 2012 Share Posted 8 March , 2012 Albert Barker was my nans brother. If you can let me know what information you need, I can see if I can help. Whilst I'm here, could anyone tell me how to find out how to find out how he died? The only information I can find is that he died of "wounds". Is there a more accurate record held somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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