mark holden Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 Is this original? The brightness of the stamp does not seem consistent with the overall wear of the cover. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WW1-1916-S-M-L-E-COVER-/330550164458?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4cf6533bea Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy.72 Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 Looks like somebody has gone over it in permanent marker!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovetown Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 Irrespective of the mark seeming to have been gone over, these almost Art Deco style MECO marks are a complete fiction anyway. And are mostly seen, although not exclusively, on breech covers.... Cheers, GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex falbo Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 I agree with Zippy and GT, looks like sharpie. The ink isn't even faded lol. These might be worth a gander however....IMA Breach Covers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 4 April , 2011 Author Share Posted 4 April , 2011 Thanks everyone your info confirms my initial thoughts. regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 I think smooth flat brass outer parts of the female half of the press stud is incorrect on the images shown or linked to. I think the type that should be used is also on some SRB bags. Quite a noticable type of press stud. Regards, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krithia Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 An out right faked marking as seen in SBR bags and webbing equipment, sadly put there to deceive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog Posted 4 April , 2011 Share Posted 4 April , 2011 I think this is a good type of press stud. Regards, Paul. Patent date for this type of press stud looks to be 1910. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 6 April , 2011 Share Posted 6 April , 2011 If it looks too good to be true. I probably is. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 6 April , 2011 Share Posted 6 April , 2011 Why on earth would someone fake something in such poor condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 7 April , 2011 Share Posted 7 April , 2011 Why on earth would someone fake something in such poor condition? Battered WWII vintage cover = 5 quid "relic condition" WWI vintage cover (complete with somme year date) sic = 25+ quid Permanent maker? 75p? QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 10 April , 2011 Share Posted 10 April , 2011 Guess so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 8 Posted 10 April , 2011 Share Posted 10 April , 2011 Yup, moody as they come. These stamps appeared a few years ago on an improbably large number of items all at one time, including breech covers, packs, slings etc. Font totally wrong, ink too dark and clear, illogical maker marks (breech covers made by MECO in 1914 anyone?!). The main vendor was a Nottingham dealer with a shop and an on-line site (also prominent on eBay); he eventually vanished after garnering an unsustainable amount of negative feedback. Ironically there is currently a "deceased's effects bag 1914" going on eBay with the same stamp (presumably the one that was featured in the self-same dealer's on-line shop a while back and was roundly mocked on this forum). It looks very much like a WW2 helmet bag with the addition of a moody stamp. Who'd have known that MECO were diversifying into non-web equipment items so early in the war...? Anything with these stamps should be avoided like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 10 April , 2011 Share Posted 10 April , 2011 They are still catching people out - I referred on another thread to a large pack dated 1914 in this same font that recently sold for £117. "The evil that men do lives after them..."! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 8 Posted 10 April , 2011 Share Posted 10 April , 2011 They are still catching people out - I referred on another thread to a large pack dated 1914 in this same font that recently sold for £117. "The evil that men do lives after them..."! The tragedy is that "newbies" to collecting don't have the benefit of having access to the more experienced collectors as found on this forum or in wider militaria circles and wade straight in on the basis of the description given. "Caveat emptor" is all well and good, but in order to beware you have to be aware! We've all made our mistakes, and some vendors sell in ignorance. But there are clearly a few hardened fraudsters out there who think nothing of stamping up moody kit with no other aim but to deceive/profit. All the more reason to be glad of resources like this and the many SMEs who are willing to share their expertise. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 11 April , 2011 Share Posted 11 April , 2011 I wonder what has been inked out, that isn't oil from the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 12 April , 2011 Share Posted 12 April , 2011 The same seller has another one, this time dated 1917: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WW1-1917-S-M-L-E-COVER-/330552708527?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4cf67a0daf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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