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What Regiment Would this be?


mazzie74

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Hi,

I have just been given a copy of a photograph, and would like help to find what regiment the chap would have been in.

The lady is an ancestor of mine from Bristol, but I am told that the man was her cousin from Wales.

I know a few regiments that my ancestors from Wales served in, so hopefully I may be able to identify who it is.

Thanks,

Darin,

Newcastle-upon-Tyne

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Hi,

I have just been given a copy of a photograph, and would like help to find what regiment the chap would have been in.

The lady is an ancestor of mine from Bristol, but I am told that the man was her cousin from Wales.

I know a few regiments that my ancestors from Wales served in, so hopefully I may be able to identify who it is.

Thanks,

Darin,

Newcastle-upon-Tyne

He is a Royal Engineer with a 2-years good conduct stripe and a vertical wound stripe, both on left sleeve. He is wearing a pattern of trench cap often called the 'Gor Blimey' that was issued in 1915.

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Hi Frogsmile,

Thank you very much for the information.

That rules out my ancestors from Wales anyway, as they served in the South Wales Borderers, The Welch Regiment and the Royal Garrison Artillery.

Thanks again,

Darin.

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Darin

Just because he is in the RE does not mean he never served the Reg you seek.

Many men served in many different corps in the war. Due to wounds etc. This man may still be possilbe.

From the photo he has a Good Conduct inverted chevron and a wound strip.

Loads of clues.

Atnomis

PS Lady is wearing a black arm band. Love on or relative lost. Brother and sister?

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I am not convinced he has a wound stripe, I think it is a defect on the picture.

Cheers

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Hi,

You are right - The lady is wearing a black arm band because her husband, Sidney Fry was killed in 1916.

He served in the Gloucestershire regiment.

I have a copy of the medal cards of all my Welsh ancestors that served in WWI.

I would have thought that if they were attached to the Royal Engineers from their normal regiment then it would be stated?

I think that I may have worked out who the chap is.

Mary ann Fry (maiden name Mazzie) ie - the lady in the picture had a half brother, called Frederick Richard Knowles who was born in Bristol in 1897.

I have searched freebmd and there are only 2 Frederick Richard Knowles' that would have been old enough to serve in World War I.

One was Frederick Richard C. Knowles, born in Bradford, Yorkshire in 1889 - and there is a Frederick R. C. Knowles on the medal roll who served in the Welch Regiment.

The other is Mary Ann Fry's half brother - and there is a Frederick Richard Knowles who served as a sapper in the Royal Engineers (494102).

To add to what I was told (that the gentleman was from Wales) - I can't find any Frederick Knowles' marrying in Bristol

However, there is a Frederick R. Knowles that married in Pontypridd, Wales in 1919 to a Bertha Rennolds.

So I think that the gentleman isn't in fact a cousin, but a half-brother.

Thanks,

Darin.

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Dann, it would be worth seeing if someone could clean that photo up for you, it seems a shame that it is in its current condition (not criticising, just statement of fact).

If you can't do it yourself, or find someone you know, then there are specialists around and I think if you search amongst some of the advertised services on here you might find some.....

Just a thought....

One other thing - don't they look quite "small"?

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Dann, it would be worth seeing if someone could clean that photo up for you, it seems a shame that it is in its current condition (not criticising, just statement of fact).

Kevin I'm on it. Heavy duty scratches. Might be done by the weekend.

Close up looks like wound strip.

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Hi,

You are right - The lady is wearing a black arm band because her husband, Sidney Fry was killed in 1916.

He served in the Gloucestershire regiment.

I have a copy of the medal cards of all my Welsh ancestors that served in WWI.

I would have thought that if they were attached to the Royal Engineers from their normal regiment then it would be stated?

I think that I may have worked out who the chap is.

Mary ann Fry (maiden name Mazzie) ie - the lady in the picture had a half brother, called Frederick Richard Knowles who was born in Bristol in 1897.

I have searched freebmd and there are only 2 Frederick Richard Knowles' that would have been old enough to serve in World War I.

One was Frederick Richard C. Knowles, born in Bradford, Yorkshire in 1889 - and there is a Frederick R. C. Knowles on the medal roll who served in the Welch Regiment.

The other is Mary Ann Fry's half brother - and there is a Frederick Richard Knowles who served as a sapper in the Royal Engineers (494102).

To add to what I was told (that the gentleman was from Wales) - I can't find any Frederick Knowles' marrying in Bristol

However, there is a Frederick R. Knowles that married in Pontypridd, Wales in 1919 to a Bertha Rennolds.

So I think that the gentleman isn't in fact a cousin, but a half-brother.

Thanks,

Darin.

It seems appropriate that there is a distinct family resemblance around the eyes and eyebrows.

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See what you all think.

Regards

Atnomis/Simon

Much better Simon, it was good of you to go to such efforts. His left eyes looks just a tad too far away from his right one perhaps, but that may be how he really looked.

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I know I'll re do it.

No offence intended, I think you have done a brilliant job and I admire your skill. I would not have a clue how to do such repairs.

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No offence intended.

None taken. I enjoy trying to get pictures back how they should look. I have had to do lot's of my own. Ex Army ones that have been damaged over the past years. Face book and Regimental reunions have got me hard at it repairing them.

Had another go think the eye is better placed now.

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None taken. I enjoy trying to get pictures back how they should look. I have had to do lot's of my own. Ex Army ones that have been damaged over the past years. Face book and Regimental reunions have got me hard at it repairing them.

Had another go think the eye is better placed now.

Yes, great job, that looks better now.

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