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Remembered Today:

Surg.Cdr Horace Bryden Hill


seaJane

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These are from another portrait in the basement.

I can spot the WW1 trio myself by now, and am informed the one to the left of those is the Order of St John.

Next row down, I am told no. 1 is a Coronation medal (not sure which monarch) and no. 3 is Reserves Long Service. No. 2 eludes identification at the moment - any ideas?

thank you!

seaJane

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...I am told no. 1 is a Coronation medal (not sure which monarch)...post-33278-0-88390700-1301348867.jpg

1911 Coronation Medal, or the Delhi Durbar 1911 Medal (both used the same ribbon).

Given the apparently Naval link, I wonder if the red and white ribband is the Rocket Apparatus Volunteer Long Service Medal (bit obscure, and possibly should be before the RNR LSGC but the only other good match would be the Canada General Service Medal which is a 19th centrury award).

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I think they maybe,

top row: Order of St John (black ribbon, could be my eyes going) with WW1 trio

Bottom row: 1911 Jubilee medal, Sea Gallantry Medal and the last one I'm thinking Albert Medal

Alex

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http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/27740/pages/8290 Commissioning

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/28599/pages/2702

The KING has been pleased to give and grant unto the undermentioned Naval Officers His Majesty's Royal licence and authority to accept and wear Decorations (as stated against their respective names) which have been conferred upon them by His Majesty the King of Italy, in recognition of valuable services rendered by them at the time of the earthquake in Southern Italy in the year 1908 : —

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Insignia of Officer of the Order of the Crown of Italy

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Surgeon Horace Bryden Hill, M.B.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/32572/pages/275 Esquire of the Order of St John

He doesn't seem to have a record in ADM 196, there may be something in ADM 104

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David,

Your right, Officer of the order of the crown of Italy and not the Sea Gallantry Medal. At least you confirmed my eyes are ok with the Order of St John.

Just that last one any ideas on what it is for sure?

Alex

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The Albert Medal would have the green and white stripes the other way round (ie green white green white green) judging by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Medal_(lifesaving). It's position after the Order of the Crown of Italy would presumably imply another foreign order of some sort?

Missed this gazette entry beofer. Retired 1929 as Surgeon Captain on the retired list http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/33523/pages/5146

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For completeness I will add that I've been able to check "Heroic endeavour : a complete register of the Albert, Edward and Empire gallantry medals and how they were won"; Henderson, Donald Victor - and no Hill was ever awarded any of those medals.

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Good find, and would fit with the Order of the Crown of Italy, I notice it's only the shade of green which distinguishes it from the Royal Naval Reserve medal originally suggested, though since he seems to have been a regular, there's no reason why he should have had that anyway.

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David,

The RNR LSGC was for ratings, Ribbon 220A in the link in my previous post RNR Officers got the Reserve Decoration, Ribbon 219

Alex

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Everyone, thank you so much.

I must admit that my immediate thought on the green & white stripe was Messina (we have an example in the collection), but the green in the portrait looked darker than the Messina green, which made me go along with the Reserve Long Service suggestion: but apparently that was green without stripes until 1941?

I had someone in today to clean another picture and she was very taken with Horace. I will try to compile something thorough on him for our records - David, that date of death entry was useful, thanks.

sJ

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